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哎,这个事情我有很多年没想起来了,既然又把这个事情提起来了,那我再说一下我的感受吧。
我在2000s的时候(大概是2005年之前)是大概知晓末代沙皇一家的事情的,当然了某些宣传机构的辩护是推翻旧时代,流血是理所应当的,阶级敌人需要被消灭等。我对这些是持怀疑态度的,我当时的意见是,既然处决大人,那么为什么一群孩子也不放过呢?有的人说,这肯定要“斩草除根”以免后患, 云云。
我真正对这个事情有了印象是2007年夏天,Alexei和姐姐的遗骸被发现的新闻。当时的新闻报道是,他们只剩下了零碎的残骸和一点点衣服(水手服颜色的布片)当时我正巧和Alexei遇害的时候差不多年纪(还要再小一些)这让我感到十分的恐惧:为什么要这样把他们消灭得连完整的尸体都不剩下呢?Alexei只是一个像我一样的男孩啊! 我后来又晓得,布尔什维克为了刻意制造混乱,故意把尸体销毁后再散布假新闻说其中的女儿还活着,这样的话就会出现仿冒者,(90年代的时候整个世界的笑话之一就是假冒的末代沙皇公主等等,因为那个时候已经没有人信了。这就和90年代末期流行的尼日利亚王子诈骗一个道理)在反布尔什维克阵营里最大化制造破坏。
我那个时候也从为数不多的旧历史资料里看到Alexei和同伴玩耍的片段和照片,想到了布尔什维克这么做的手段和目的后,这确认了我之前的想法:反共是做人底线,因为一旦加入了共产党,就会被共产党所控制而变得没有人性。
我当时最亲密的好朋友,无话不谈亲密无间,可能就和Kolya和Alexei一样吧。 当然了,我当时是不知道细节的,但是当时我和他之间互相爱慕,非常信任对方,对方就如同是自己的一部分一样,这也只有10-14岁的小孩子之间才能产生的亲密感情。这是因为,10岁之前的儿童,和父母的感情还是最深的,同伴也很重要,但是还没有重要到依恋的程度,而且人的感情发展还不够完善,不能支撑起这么复杂的互动。 而14岁以后的小孩,最重要的感情很多时候是情侣,或者恋人,而和朋友之间的感情很多时候不会发展的如此复杂没有边际。只有在这个年龄区间的同伴,会发展出这么强烈的,没有界限的感情。这其中有没有性是不重要的,重要的是陪伴本身,一起玩耍一起思考,一起探索知识和智慧,对世界的感知等等,一起吃一起睡,一起开开心心的感情交流,互相抱着一起哭等等。
当时我是在个性,文化上很强势的那位,我的那个好朋友比较弱势。但是他比较,听从,顺从共产党的教育,这一点我一直是很不满意的。我一直有尝试“自由化改造”他的想法,我也部分实施了,但是这种事情并不容易办到。而且,我不忍心,因为我这么做是施加控制,有从灵魂上杀死他的风险,这是太可怕的事情。 我当时太爱他了,实在是做不出来。这也是我后来在反省,反共到最后,和人性的界限在哪里?
这一段我看完,哭了一晚上。
https://www.theromanovfamily.com/kolya-derevenkos-story/
I was a little boy, just twelve years old. I did not know of the evil in people’s souls. We were living at the Popov house near the Ipatiev house. In the middle of the summer of 1918, I was afraid and worried for Alexei. I wanted to see him and at the same time I am sure he wanted to see me too. Until that sad day of July 17, 1918, my father, Gilliard, Gibbes, and others knew everything, but I knew nothing. Something terrible was going to happen, but I didn’t know what it was… In the last week of July 1918, myself, my father, Gilliard, Gibbes, and others entered the Ipatiev house. There was a terrible scene… The house was in complete chaos; diaries, letters, albums, and other things were strewn all around in the house.. “But where is Ieskela*?” I asked my father, but he stayed silent. Ieskela’s diary was found by a White guard, I think his name was Nemetkin, I am not sure. But Leonid Sednev… I saw him. He cried. His cries were so loud… so loud!
I was confused. “Papa, where is my Ieskela?” – I asked. “They killed him”, he said, and I started to cry. “But how?” – I replied. “They killed the Tsar, the Tsaritsa, and the Grand Duchesses too. They are all dead.” – said my father. “But I don’t understand. Where… where are their bodies?” “We don’t know, maybe we will never find them”.
I then realized brutal life could be… I found Ieskela’s last letter written to me. One sentence in particular in that letter – “I hug you tightly” – made me cry so much. I thought “and I hug you tightly too, my dear friend, my Tsar…”
I was in shock. In the following years, I thought about him. “Why did they kill you? In the USSR, there was no place for my Ieskela. We will be friends forever, my dear Tsesarevich… If I could see you just one more time, then I can die in peace…
Kolya Derevenko in very old age, shortly before his own death.
*In their letters, Alexei and Kolya would refer to each other by their names read backwards – Alexei was “Ieskela”, while Kolya was “Yalok”.
Kolya Derevenko died in 1999 without ever finding out exactly what happened to his best friend Alexei.
这哪里只是人的恶呢?没有布尔什维克的发明,人要达到这样的邪恶是非常非常困难的。布尔什维克是科学,技术,现代化所制造出来的产物,没有了人类工业,也不会有这个政党的运行。
这是心碎的感觉,我也晓得,还好我自己并没有体验过。
依我看,还好这位在发现了Alexei遗骸之前去世,因为我觉得发现的结果是极为可怕的,还是不知道为好。 如果是我,我宁可不去知道。
至于这两位之前亲密得有没有发生别的事情,我觉得是不重要的。这两位能够陪伴对方,开开心心就是最大的幸福。(我自己和好朋友亲密无间,后来也是互相亲吻拥抱,还有很多很多。)
我在2000s的时候(大概是2005年之前)是大概知晓末代沙皇一家的事情的,当然了某些宣传机构的辩护是推翻旧时代,流血是理所应当的,阶级敌人需要被消灭等。我对这些是持怀疑态度的,我当时的意见是,既然处决大人,那么为什么一群孩子也不放过呢?有的人说,这肯定要“斩草除根”以免后患, 云云。
我真正对这个事情有了印象是2007年夏天,Alexei和姐姐的遗骸被发现的新闻。当时的新闻报道是,他们只剩下了零碎的残骸和一点点衣服(水手服颜色的布片)当时我正巧和Alexei遇害的时候差不多年纪(还要再小一些)这让我感到十分的恐惧:为什么要这样把他们消灭得连完整的尸体都不剩下呢?Alexei只是一个像我一样的男孩啊! 我后来又晓得,布尔什维克为了刻意制造混乱,故意把尸体销毁后再散布假新闻说其中的女儿还活着,这样的话就会出现仿冒者,(90年代的时候整个世界的笑话之一就是假冒的末代沙皇公主等等,因为那个时候已经没有人信了。这就和90年代末期流行的尼日利亚王子诈骗一个道理)在反布尔什维克阵营里最大化制造破坏。
我那个时候也从为数不多的旧历史资料里看到Alexei和同伴玩耍的片段和照片,想到了布尔什维克这么做的手段和目的后,这确认了我之前的想法:反共是做人底线,因为一旦加入了共产党,就会被共产党所控制而变得没有人性。
我当时最亲密的好朋友,无话不谈亲密无间,可能就和Kolya和Alexei一样吧。 当然了,我当时是不知道细节的,但是当时我和他之间互相爱慕,非常信任对方,对方就如同是自己的一部分一样,这也只有10-14岁的小孩子之间才能产生的亲密感情。这是因为,10岁之前的儿童,和父母的感情还是最深的,同伴也很重要,但是还没有重要到依恋的程度,而且人的感情发展还不够完善,不能支撑起这么复杂的互动。 而14岁以后的小孩,最重要的感情很多时候是情侣,或者恋人,而和朋友之间的感情很多时候不会发展的如此复杂没有边际。只有在这个年龄区间的同伴,会发展出这么强烈的,没有界限的感情。这其中有没有性是不重要的,重要的是陪伴本身,一起玩耍一起思考,一起探索知识和智慧,对世界的感知等等,一起吃一起睡,一起开开心心的感情交流,互相抱着一起哭等等。
当时我是在个性,文化上很强势的那位,我的那个好朋友比较弱势。但是他比较,听从,顺从共产党的教育,这一点我一直是很不满意的。我一直有尝试“自由化改造”他的想法,我也部分实施了,但是这种事情并不容易办到。而且,我不忍心,因为我这么做是施加控制,有从灵魂上杀死他的风险,这是太可怕的事情。 我当时太爱他了,实在是做不出来。这也是我后来在反省,反共到最后,和人性的界限在哪里?
这一段我看完,哭了一晚上。
https://www.theromanovfamily.com/kolya-derevenkos-story/
I was a little boy, just twelve years old. I did not know of the evil in people’s souls. We were living at the Popov house near the Ipatiev house. In the middle of the summer of 1918, I was afraid and worried for Alexei. I wanted to see him and at the same time I am sure he wanted to see me too. Until that sad day of July 17, 1918, my father, Gilliard, Gibbes, and others knew everything, but I knew nothing. Something terrible was going to happen, but I didn’t know what it was… In the last week of July 1918, myself, my father, Gilliard, Gibbes, and others entered the Ipatiev house. There was a terrible scene… The house was in complete chaos; diaries, letters, albums, and other things were strewn all around in the house.. “But where is Ieskela*?” I asked my father, but he stayed silent. Ieskela’s diary was found by a White guard, I think his name was Nemetkin, I am not sure. But Leonid Sednev… I saw him. He cried. His cries were so loud… so loud!
I was confused. “Papa, where is my Ieskela?” – I asked. “They killed him”, he said, and I started to cry. “But how?” – I replied. “They killed the Tsar, the Tsaritsa, and the Grand Duchesses too. They are all dead.” – said my father. “But I don’t understand. Where… where are their bodies?” “We don’t know, maybe we will never find them”.
I then realized brutal life could be… I found Ieskela’s last letter written to me. One sentence in particular in that letter – “I hug you tightly” – made me cry so much. I thought “and I hug you tightly too, my dear friend, my Tsar…”
I was in shock. In the following years, I thought about him. “Why did they kill you? In the USSR, there was no place for my Ieskela. We will be friends forever, my dear Tsesarevich… If I could see you just one more time, then I can die in peace…
Kolya Derevenko in very old age, shortly before his own death.
*In their letters, Alexei and Kolya would refer to each other by their names read backwards – Alexei was “Ieskela”, while Kolya was “Yalok”.
Kolya Derevenko died in 1999 without ever finding out exactly what happened to his best friend Alexei.
这哪里只是人的恶呢?没有布尔什维克的发明,人要达到这样的邪恶是非常非常困难的。布尔什维克是科学,技术,现代化所制造出来的产物,没有了人类工业,也不会有这个政党的运行。
这是心碎的感觉,我也晓得,还好我自己并没有体验过。
依我看,还好这位在发现了Alexei遗骸之前去世,因为我觉得发现的结果是极为可怕的,还是不知道为好。 如果是我,我宁可不去知道。
至于这两位之前亲密得有没有发生别的事情,我觉得是不重要的。这两位能够陪伴对方,开开心心就是最大的幸福。(我自己和好朋友亲密无间,后来也是互相亲吻拥抱,还有很多很多。)
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My name is Alexei(Russified Version), there's a reason behind that.
>>, there's a re...
maybe we are destined to know each other then... maybe....
and maybe there are more things we are yet to know.
Maybe certain things are destined to be undone, and certain things are destined to be continued, after a long pause.
这种程度的残暴大概也只有张献忠、朱重八跟黄巢可以比了,要胜过bolshevik也只有同行的pol pot了。
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>>Do you agree with this map?
you know it depends on the perspective.....
and there can be many many perspectives.

I wonder what Sicilians and Tsargrad residents think about the map you have quoted
>> Today I came back to the accent oracle website,...
I read it quickly and probably the AI treated me as a babarian, loud and crude seller in the local market,

and when I slowed down,
I became One Thousand and One Nights?
>> Today I came back to the accent oracle website,...
I guess the AI thought I am Qajar or something similar then....

>> I read it quickly and probably the AI treated m...
Yohoho this AI is cooked, it's not even self-consistent.
Actually as a human, I don't feel the influence of those languages in your accent, instead you're more like using a man made talking manner, just like the mid(trans) atlantic in the past.
>> Yohoho this AI is cooked, it's not even self-co...
the AI might take too much consideration of the speech speed and tone ignoring the human perception of accent. Just like the difference between bot Battlefield player and real humans
yes, the way how I talk and manner is pretty man made like Esperanto in a sense....
hence my avatar (Shanghai International Settlement) elsewhere. It is a man made municipality with constructed culture (untentionally in a sense) after all

