哈萨克斯坦爆发大规模抗议(1月10日最后更新:普京表态)
1月10日最后更新:普京在集安组织领导人会议中对哈萨克斯坦示威表态称:1. 事件主因是“内外破坏势力”;2. 该地区不许颜色革命;3. 集安部队将驻留哈萨克,直至托卡耶夫认为不再必要。(托卡耶夫称事件为失败的政变。)
From NYT:
MOSCOW — President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia said on Monday that recent unrest in Kazakhstan had been caused by “destructive internal and external forces” and that more than 2,000 troops his country had sent as “peacekeepers” would leave only once their mission was complete.
Mr. Putin said the troops would remain “for a limited time period.” But he did not give any deadline for a withdrawal, saying that they would stay as long as President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev of Kazakhstan “considers it necessary,” raising the possibility they could be in the country indefinitely.
Mr. Putin’s comments, made at a meeting of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, a body equivalent to NATO that includes six countries from the former Soviet Union, were his first since unrest engulfed Kazakhstan last week, with widespread protests over rising gas prices that began peacefully and then turned violent.
The Russian president said the unrest was indicative of foreign attempts to intervene in a region the Kremlin sees as its sphere of influence, and compared recent events to the protests in Ukraine that led to the ouster of the country’s pro-Russian president in 2014. Those protests also helped precipitate Russia’s annexation of Crimea and invasion of the Donbas region in eastern Ukraine that year.
Mr. Putin said that the Collective Security Treaty Organization, widely seen as Russian-dominated, would not allow any “color revolutions,” a term that has been used for the pro-democracy movements that swept many countries of the former Soviet Union.
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Mr. Tokayev, the country’s president, told the same alliance meeting that he had weathered “an attempted coup d’état,” one in which “armed militants” had sought to use protests as a pretext.
“The main goal was obvious: the undermining of the constitutional order, the destruction of government institutions and the seizure of power,” he said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/10/world/europe/putin-russia-kazakhstan.html
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1月9日更新:哈萨克当局称164人身亡,其中103人死于阿拉木图:
From AP:
MOSCOW (AP) — Kazakhstan’s health ministry said Sunday that 164 people have been killed in protests that have rocked the country over the past week.
The figures reported on the state news channel Khabar-24 are a significant rise from previous tallies. It is not clear if the deaths refer only to civilians or if law-enforcement deaths are included. Kazakh authorities said earlier Sunday that 16 police or national guard had been killed. Authorities previously gave the civilian death toll as 26.
Most of the deaths — 103 — were in Almaty, the country’s largest city, where demonstrators seized government buildings and set some afire, according to the ministry. the country’s ombudswoman for children’s rights said that three of those killed were minors, including a 4-year-old girl.
The ministry earlier reported more than 2,200 people sought treatment for injuries from the protests, and the Interior Ministry said about 1,300 security officers were injured.
The office of Kazakhstan’s president said that about 5,800 people were detained by police during the protests that developed into violence last week and prompted a Russia-led military alliance to send troops to the country.
President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev’s office said Sunday that order has stabilized in the country and that authorities have regained control of administrative buildings that were occupied by protesters, some of which were set on fire.
https://apnews.com/article/europe-russia-kazakhstan-almaty-e8041ebee995d41050e6919ea0cdca64
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1月8日更新:哈萨克国安委员会主席/前总理/纳扎尔巴耶夫盟友马西莫夫被捕并被控叛国:
From Eurasia Net:
In a turn of events that has complicated the narrative around the unfolding drama in Kazakhstan, the authorities on January 8 announced that the recently dismissed head of the security services has been arrested on charges of treason.
Karim Masimov’s arrest comes only three days after he was dismissed without explanation from his post by President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev.
This turn of events, which implicates a stalwart ally of former President Nursultan Nazarbayev in a suspected political conspiracy, hints at the likelihood of a vicious behind-the-scenes clash among elite insiders. At first glance, it appears the Nazarbayev clan is emerging as the loser.
Masimov’s arrest was announced by the very same National Security Committee, or KNB, that he led until his dismissal on January 5.
https://eurasianet.org/kazakhstan-ex-security-services-chief-and-nazarbayev-ally-arrested
关于他被捕的政治意涵,文中有进一步分析。
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1月8日更新:数日暴力冲突之后,哈萨克局势暂时趋于平静,普京与托卡耶夫通话讨论善后事宜:
From France 24:
Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Kazakhstani counterpart Kassym-Jomart Tokayev held a "lengthy" phone conversation to discuss the situation in Kazakhstan following unprecedented unrest, the Kremlin said Saturday.
It said that Tokayev informed Putin "in detail" about the situation in the country, "noting that it is developing towards stabilisation," the Kremlin said in a statement.
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After days of violence, a relative calm returned to Kazakhstan on Saturday. Former Kazakhstani president Nursultan Nazarbayev called on the population to support the government to face this crisis.
In the country's biggest city Almaty, an uneasy calm pervaded Saturday and few people were out on the streets.
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20220108-kazakhstan-detains-former-national-security-chief-accused-of-treason
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1月7日更新:哈萨克总统托卡耶夫最新表态要点:1. 称“反恐行动”尚未结束;2. 宣布不与“恐怖分子”谈判,对其格杀勿论;3. 暗示境外势力挑动叛乱;4. 称集安部队将在国内短期驻留。
Qasym-Jomart Toqayev @TokayevKZ
Currently, the counter-terrorist operation continues in our country. Large-scale and well-coordinated work is being carried out by the police. The National Guard and the armed forces to restore law and order in accordance with the Constitution.
https://twitter.com/TokayevKZ/status/1479524544645939200
Peacekeeping troops comprising of multinational forces of CSTO member states were deployed and will remain for the short period of time until the stabilization of the situation in Kazakhstan.
https://twitter.com/TokayevKZ/status/1479526740745728003
Gangsters and terrorists very well trained, organized and commanded by the special centre. Some of them were speaking non-Kazakh languages. There were at least six waves of attacks of terrorists at Almaty, total amount of them 20 thousand.
https://twitter.com/TokayevKZ/status/1479528307993497610
They were beating and killing policemen and young soldiers, putting fire at administrative buildings, looting private premises and shops, killing secular citizens, raping young women. In my basic view: no talks with the terrorists, we must kill them.
https://twitter.com/TokayevKZ/status/1479529093335076868
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1月7日更新:哈萨克总统称秩序大体恢复,但“反恐行动”仍将继续:
From AP:
MOSCOW (AP) — The president of Kazakhstan on Friday declared that constitutional order was “mainly restored” after the country was engulfed in unprecedented unrest in recent days.
“An anti-terror operation has commenced. Law enforcement agencies are working hard. Constitutional order has been mainly restored in all regions of the country. Local authorities are in control of the situation,” Kassym-Jomart Tokayev was quoted by his spokespeople as saying Friday.
The president added, however, that “terrorists are still using weapons and are damaging people’s property” and that “counterterrorist actions” should be continued.
https://apnews.com/article/kazakhstan-law-enforcement-agencies-6dc8df9639367c3845aa00a008072997
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1月6日更新:阿拉木图冲突继续,集安组织称约2500人部队进驻哈萨克斯坦:
From Reuters:
ALMATY, Jan 6 (Reuters) - Fresh violence erupted in Kazakhstan's main city on Thursday after Russia rushed in paratroopers to put down a countrywide uprising in one of Moscow's closest former Soviet allies.
Police in the main city Almaty said they had killed dozens of rioters overnight into the early hours of Thursday morning. The authorities said at least 18 members of the security forces had died, including two found decapitated. More than 2,000 people had been arrested.
After a night of running confrontations between protesters and troops on the streets, a presidential residence in the city and its mayor's office were both ablaze, and burnt out cars littered the city, Reuters journalists said.
Military personnel regained control of the main airport, seized earlier by protesters. Thursday evening saw renewed battles in Almaty's main square, occupied alternately by troops and hundreds of protesters throughout much of the day.
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The general secretary of the ex-Soviet alliance - the Collective Security Treaty Organisation - told RIA news agency that the overall peacekeeping force would number about 2,500 and could be strengthened if necessary.
It was expected to be a short mission of "a few days or weeks", RIA quoted him as saying.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/troops-protesters-clash-almaty-main-square-kazakhstan-shots-heard-2022-01-06/
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1月6日更新:阿拉木图枪声阵阵:
Abdujalil A @abdujalil [from BBC News]
It sounds like a real battle going on the square. From what i can tell - the sound of gunfire, machine guns in addition to stun grenades and what sounds like fireworks #Almaty #Kazakhstan
https://twitter.com/abdujalil/status/1479092299263094790
This is what it is like in #Almaty tonight #Kazakhstan
https://twitter.com/abdujalil/status/1479181466571579394
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1月6日更新:俄军抵达哈萨克斯坦:
MOSCOW — Russian troops landed in Kazakhstan on Thursday after the Central Asian country’s president asked for help to quell sweeping anti-government protests — a major test of a Moscow-led military alliance as the Kremlin deepened its role in the crisis.
“Dozens” of demonstrators were killed, a Kazakh official said, as security forces tried to put down protests that began with outrage over a fuel price hike but have grown into a challenge to a political system largely unchanged since the end of the Soviet Union three decades ago.
It is the first time the Collective Security Treaty Organization, founded after the dissolution of the Soviet Union and composed of six former members, has agreed to deploy “peacekeepers” to aid a member country. Although the bloc has long been seen as Russia’s answer to NATO, its first joint action is ending a domestic protest rather than combating an attack from an external force.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/01/06/kazakhstan-protests-russia-csto-tokayev/
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1月6日更新:俄国为首的集体安全组织派部队奔赴哈萨克斯坦:
RT @RT_com
BREAKING: The CSTO has sent peacekeepers to #Kazakhstan - officials
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1478987445848973315
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1月6日更新:哈萨克警察杀死数十示威者:
AFP News Agency @AFP
#UPDATE Kazakhstan police killed "dozens" of protesters overnight as they tried to storm government buildings in Almaty, police tell the media.
"Extremist forces tried to assault administrative buildings, the Almaty city police department... Dozens of assailants were eliminated"
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1478976702856704003
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1月5日更新:莫斯科宣布出兵干预:
AFP News Agency @AFP
#BREAKING Moscow-led alliance to send "peacekeeping forces" to protest-hit Kazakhstan, its chairman says
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1478844511740731396
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1月5日更新:哈萨克总统向莫斯科请求军援:
AFP News Agency @AFP
#BREAKING Kazakhstan appeals to Moscow-backed military alliance for help quelling unrest
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1478804621346885632
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哈萨克斯坦爆发抗议,部分城市和州进入紧急状态
2022年1月5日 10:20
美国之音
哈萨克斯坦总统托卡耶夫(Kassym-Jomart Tokayev)的办公室周三(1月5日)早晨表示,总统已经宣布该国最大城市阿拉木图和西部的曼格斯套州进入为期两周的紧急状态。在这些地方,抗议活动演变成了暴力事件。
根据总统网站上发布的文件,这一举措包括在晚上11点到早上7点实行宵禁、限制行动和禁止大规模集会。
“号召攻击政府和军队办公机构绝对是非法的,” 托卡耶夫几小时前在一段视频讲话中说。“政府不会垮台,但我们希望相互信任和对话,而不是冲突。”
就在他讲话的同时,路透社的一名记者在现场报道说,阿拉木图警方使用催泪瓦斯和眩晕弹来阻止数百名抗议者冲击市长办公室。
石油资源丰富的阿拉木图政府周二晚间宣布,将恢复对液化石油气的部分价格设置的上限。此前,由于今年年初燃油价格大幅上涨,罕见的抗议活动蔓延到了阿拉木图。
许多哈萨克人将他们的汽车改装成使用液化石油气的汽车。由于有价格上限,液化石油气作为汽车燃料比汽油便宜得多。但政府认为,这种低价是不可持续的,并在1月1日取消了上限。
价格飙升
在燃油价格价飙升后,1月2日,数千人在石油中心城市扎瑙津举行了集会。10年前,抗议者和警察曾在该市发生过造成人员死亡的冲突。
示威活动蔓延到曼格斯套州和哈萨克斯坦西部的其他地区,包括该州的中心城市阿克套,以及哈萨克斯坦最大石油生产商田吉兹雪佛龙(Tengizchevron)的分包商使用的一个工人营地。这家由雪佛龙(chevron)牵头的合资企业表示,产量未受到影响。
在阿拉木图,警方似乎在投放闪光弹后不久就控制了主要的广场。但在附近的街道和城市的其他地方,可以持续听到数小时的爆炸声。
网上发布的视频显示,该市的警车被点燃,装甲车辆在一条主干道上行驶。
周二晚上,政府宣布恢复曼格斯套州液化石油气每升50坚戈(11美分)的价格上限,这一价格还不到市场价的一半。
在这个拥有1900万人口的国家,除非组织者事先提交通知,否则公众抗议是非法的。
托卡耶夫在议会中没有任何政治反对派。他是2019年卸任的苏联时代的共产党首领纳扎尔巴耶夫(Nursultan Nazarbayev)亲自挑选的接班人。
托卡耶夫总统周二在推特上表示,他将在第二天召开政府会议,讨论抗议者的要求。他敦促抗议者采取负责任的行动。
(本文依据了路透社的报道。)
https://www.voachinese.com/a/Kazakhstan-protest-state-emergency-20220104/6383295.html
From NYT:
MOSCOW — President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia said on Monday that recent unrest in Kazakhstan had been caused by “destructive internal and external forces” and that more than 2,000 troops his country had sent as “peacekeepers” would leave only once their mission was complete.
Mr. Putin said the troops would remain “for a limited time period.” But he did not give any deadline for a withdrawal, saying that they would stay as long as President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev of Kazakhstan “considers it necessary,” raising the possibility they could be in the country indefinitely.
Mr. Putin’s comments, made at a meeting of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, a body equivalent to NATO that includes six countries from the former Soviet Union, were his first since unrest engulfed Kazakhstan last week, with widespread protests over rising gas prices that began peacefully and then turned violent.
The Russian president said the unrest was indicative of foreign attempts to intervene in a region the Kremlin sees as its sphere of influence, and compared recent events to the protests in Ukraine that led to the ouster of the country’s pro-Russian president in 2014. Those protests also helped precipitate Russia’s annexation of Crimea and invasion of the Donbas region in eastern Ukraine that year.
Mr. Putin said that the Collective Security Treaty Organization, widely seen as Russian-dominated, would not allow any “color revolutions,” a term that has been used for the pro-democracy movements that swept many countries of the former Soviet Union.
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Mr. Tokayev, the country’s president, told the same alliance meeting that he had weathered “an attempted coup d’état,” one in which “armed militants” had sought to use protests as a pretext.
“The main goal was obvious: the undermining of the constitutional order, the destruction of government institutions and the seizure of power,” he said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/10/world/europe/putin-russia-kazakhstan.html
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1月9日更新:哈萨克当局称164人身亡,其中103人死于阿拉木图:
From AP:
MOSCOW (AP) — Kazakhstan’s health ministry said Sunday that 164 people have been killed in protests that have rocked the country over the past week.
The figures reported on the state news channel Khabar-24 are a significant rise from previous tallies. It is not clear if the deaths refer only to civilians or if law-enforcement deaths are included. Kazakh authorities said earlier Sunday that 16 police or national guard had been killed. Authorities previously gave the civilian death toll as 26.
Most of the deaths — 103 — were in Almaty, the country’s largest city, where demonstrators seized government buildings and set some afire, according to the ministry. the country’s ombudswoman for children’s rights said that three of those killed were minors, including a 4-year-old girl.
The ministry earlier reported more than 2,200 people sought treatment for injuries from the protests, and the Interior Ministry said about 1,300 security officers were injured.
The office of Kazakhstan’s president said that about 5,800 people were detained by police during the protests that developed into violence last week and prompted a Russia-led military alliance to send troops to the country.
President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev’s office said Sunday that order has stabilized in the country and that authorities have regained control of administrative buildings that were occupied by protesters, some of which were set on fire.
https://apnews.com/article/europe-russia-kazakhstan-almaty-e8041ebee995d41050e6919ea0cdca64
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1月8日更新:哈萨克国安委员会主席/前总理/纳扎尔巴耶夫盟友马西莫夫被捕并被控叛国:
From Eurasia Net:
In a turn of events that has complicated the narrative around the unfolding drama in Kazakhstan, the authorities on January 8 announced that the recently dismissed head of the security services has been arrested on charges of treason.
Karim Masimov’s arrest comes only three days after he was dismissed without explanation from his post by President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev.
This turn of events, which implicates a stalwart ally of former President Nursultan Nazarbayev in a suspected political conspiracy, hints at the likelihood of a vicious behind-the-scenes clash among elite insiders. At first glance, it appears the Nazarbayev clan is emerging as the loser.
Masimov’s arrest was announced by the very same National Security Committee, or KNB, that he led until his dismissal on January 5.
https://eurasianet.org/kazakhstan-ex-security-services-chief-and-nazarbayev-ally-arrested
关于他被捕的政治意涵,文中有进一步分析。
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1月8日更新:数日暴力冲突之后,哈萨克局势暂时趋于平静,普京与托卡耶夫通话讨论善后事宜:
From France 24:
Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Kazakhstani counterpart Kassym-Jomart Tokayev held a "lengthy" phone conversation to discuss the situation in Kazakhstan following unprecedented unrest, the Kremlin said Saturday.
It said that Tokayev informed Putin "in detail" about the situation in the country, "noting that it is developing towards stabilisation," the Kremlin said in a statement.
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After days of violence, a relative calm returned to Kazakhstan on Saturday. Former Kazakhstani president Nursultan Nazarbayev called on the population to support the government to face this crisis.
In the country's biggest city Almaty, an uneasy calm pervaded Saturday and few people were out on the streets.
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20220108-kazakhstan-detains-former-national-security-chief-accused-of-treason
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1月7日更新:哈萨克总统托卡耶夫最新表态要点:1. 称“反恐行动”尚未结束;2. 宣布不与“恐怖分子”谈判,对其格杀勿论;3. 暗示境外势力挑动叛乱;4. 称集安部队将在国内短期驻留。
Qasym-Jomart Toqayev @TokayevKZ
Currently, the counter-terrorist operation continues in our country. Large-scale and well-coordinated work is being carried out by the police. The National Guard and the armed forces to restore law and order in accordance with the Constitution.
https://twitter.com/TokayevKZ/status/1479524544645939200
Peacekeeping troops comprising of multinational forces of CSTO member states were deployed and will remain for the short period of time until the stabilization of the situation in Kazakhstan.
https://twitter.com/TokayevKZ/status/1479526740745728003
Gangsters and terrorists very well trained, organized and commanded by the special centre. Some of them were speaking non-Kazakh languages. There were at least six waves of attacks of terrorists at Almaty, total amount of them 20 thousand.
https://twitter.com/TokayevKZ/status/1479528307993497610
They were beating and killing policemen and young soldiers, putting fire at administrative buildings, looting private premises and shops, killing secular citizens, raping young women. In my basic view: no talks with the terrorists, we must kill them.
https://twitter.com/TokayevKZ/status/1479529093335076868
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1月7日更新:哈萨克总统称秩序大体恢复,但“反恐行动”仍将继续:
From AP:
MOSCOW (AP) — The president of Kazakhstan on Friday declared that constitutional order was “mainly restored” after the country was engulfed in unprecedented unrest in recent days.
“An anti-terror operation has commenced. Law enforcement agencies are working hard. Constitutional order has been mainly restored in all regions of the country. Local authorities are in control of the situation,” Kassym-Jomart Tokayev was quoted by his spokespeople as saying Friday.
The president added, however, that “terrorists are still using weapons and are damaging people’s property” and that “counterterrorist actions” should be continued.
https://apnews.com/article/kazakhstan-law-enforcement-agencies-6dc8df9639367c3845aa00a008072997
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1月6日更新:阿拉木图冲突继续,集安组织称约2500人部队进驻哈萨克斯坦:
From Reuters:
ALMATY, Jan 6 (Reuters) - Fresh violence erupted in Kazakhstan's main city on Thursday after Russia rushed in paratroopers to put down a countrywide uprising in one of Moscow's closest former Soviet allies.
Police in the main city Almaty said they had killed dozens of rioters overnight into the early hours of Thursday morning. The authorities said at least 18 members of the security forces had died, including two found decapitated. More than 2,000 people had been arrested.
After a night of running confrontations between protesters and troops on the streets, a presidential residence in the city and its mayor's office were both ablaze, and burnt out cars littered the city, Reuters journalists said.
Military personnel regained control of the main airport, seized earlier by protesters. Thursday evening saw renewed battles in Almaty's main square, occupied alternately by troops and hundreds of protesters throughout much of the day.
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The general secretary of the ex-Soviet alliance - the Collective Security Treaty Organisation - told RIA news agency that the overall peacekeeping force would number about 2,500 and could be strengthened if necessary.
It was expected to be a short mission of "a few days or weeks", RIA quoted him as saying.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/troops-protesters-clash-almaty-main-square-kazakhstan-shots-heard-2022-01-06/
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1月6日更新:阿拉木图枪声阵阵:
Abdujalil A @abdujalil [from BBC News]
It sounds like a real battle going on the square. From what i can tell - the sound of gunfire, machine guns in addition to stun grenades and what sounds like fireworks #Almaty #Kazakhstan
https://twitter.com/abdujalil/status/1479092299263094790
This is what it is like in #Almaty tonight #Kazakhstan
https://twitter.com/abdujalil/status/1479181466571579394
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1月6日更新:俄军抵达哈萨克斯坦:
MOSCOW — Russian troops landed in Kazakhstan on Thursday after the Central Asian country’s president asked for help to quell sweeping anti-government protests — a major test of a Moscow-led military alliance as the Kremlin deepened its role in the crisis.
“Dozens” of demonstrators were killed, a Kazakh official said, as security forces tried to put down protests that began with outrage over a fuel price hike but have grown into a challenge to a political system largely unchanged since the end of the Soviet Union three decades ago.
It is the first time the Collective Security Treaty Organization, founded after the dissolution of the Soviet Union and composed of six former members, has agreed to deploy “peacekeepers” to aid a member country. Although the bloc has long been seen as Russia’s answer to NATO, its first joint action is ending a domestic protest rather than combating an attack from an external force.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/01/06/kazakhstan-protests-russia-csto-tokayev/
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1月6日更新:俄国为首的集体安全组织派部队奔赴哈萨克斯坦:
RT @RT_com
BREAKING: The CSTO has sent peacekeepers to #Kazakhstan - officials
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1478987445848973315
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1月6日更新:哈萨克警察杀死数十示威者:
AFP News Agency @AFP
#UPDATE Kazakhstan police killed "dozens" of protesters overnight as they tried to storm government buildings in Almaty, police tell the media.
"Extremist forces tried to assault administrative buildings, the Almaty city police department... Dozens of assailants were eliminated"
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1478976702856704003
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1月5日更新:莫斯科宣布出兵干预:
AFP News Agency @AFP
#BREAKING Moscow-led alliance to send "peacekeeping forces" to protest-hit Kazakhstan, its chairman says
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1478844511740731396
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1月5日更新:哈萨克总统向莫斯科请求军援:
AFP News Agency @AFP
#BREAKING Kazakhstan appeals to Moscow-backed military alliance for help quelling unrest
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1478804621346885632
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哈萨克斯坦爆发抗议,部分城市和州进入紧急状态
2022年1月5日 10:20
美国之音
哈萨克斯坦总统托卡耶夫(Kassym-Jomart Tokayev)的办公室周三(1月5日)早晨表示,总统已经宣布该国最大城市阿拉木图和西部的曼格斯套州进入为期两周的紧急状态。在这些地方,抗议活动演变成了暴力事件。
根据总统网站上发布的文件,这一举措包括在晚上11点到早上7点实行宵禁、限制行动和禁止大规模集会。
“号召攻击政府和军队办公机构绝对是非法的,” 托卡耶夫几小时前在一段视频讲话中说。“政府不会垮台,但我们希望相互信任和对话,而不是冲突。”
就在他讲话的同时,路透社的一名记者在现场报道说,阿拉木图警方使用催泪瓦斯和眩晕弹来阻止数百名抗议者冲击市长办公室。
石油资源丰富的阿拉木图政府周二晚间宣布,将恢复对液化石油气的部分价格设置的上限。此前,由于今年年初燃油价格大幅上涨,罕见的抗议活动蔓延到了阿拉木图。
许多哈萨克人将他们的汽车改装成使用液化石油气的汽车。由于有价格上限,液化石油气作为汽车燃料比汽油便宜得多。但政府认为,这种低价是不可持续的,并在1月1日取消了上限。
价格飙升
在燃油价格价飙升后,1月2日,数千人在石油中心城市扎瑙津举行了集会。10年前,抗议者和警察曾在该市发生过造成人员死亡的冲突。
示威活动蔓延到曼格斯套州和哈萨克斯坦西部的其他地区,包括该州的中心城市阿克套,以及哈萨克斯坦最大石油生产商田吉兹雪佛龙(Tengizchevron)的分包商使用的一个工人营地。这家由雪佛龙(chevron)牵头的合资企业表示,产量未受到影响。
在阿拉木图,警方似乎在投放闪光弹后不久就控制了主要的广场。但在附近的街道和城市的其他地方,可以持续听到数小时的爆炸声。
网上发布的视频显示,该市的警车被点燃,装甲车辆在一条主干道上行驶。
周二晚上,政府宣布恢复曼格斯套州液化石油气每升50坚戈(11美分)的价格上限,这一价格还不到市场价的一半。
在这个拥有1900万人口的国家,除非组织者事先提交通知,否则公众抗议是非法的。
托卡耶夫在议会中没有任何政治反对派。他是2019年卸任的苏联时代的共产党首领纳扎尔巴耶夫(Nursultan Nazarbayev)亲自挑选的接班人。
托卡耶夫总统周二在推特上表示,他将在第二天召开政府会议,讨论抗议者的要求。他敦促抗议者采取负责任的行动。
(本文依据了路透社的报道。)
https://www.voachinese.com/a/Kazakhstan-protest-state-emergency-20220104/6383295.html
136 个评论
我记得哈萨克斯坦也是相对独裁的国家,总统好像一直连任,而且在内部大搞个人崇拜。
鸡国人:“美国的阴谋,这帮抗议者收了cia的钱。”
在国内躲了两年后,习近平今年首访的国家
托卡耶夫就是中共在新疆搞迫害的帮凶,哈萨克斯坦乱的话哈萨克民族主义就会起来,共产党在新疆也不安稳了。
支持哈薩克斯坦民衆起身推翻獨裁者, 希望你們順利、流血少, 成功後建立一個自由民主的國度.
回復更新, 譴責哈薩克斯坦獨裁者托卡耶夫, 竟然要別國派兵鎮壓民衆你真是個人渣!
回復更新, 譴責哈薩克斯坦獨裁者托卡耶夫, 竟然要別國派兵鎮壓民衆你真是個人渣!
加油加油加油哈萨克人民 真心的加油烧死所有的独裁者
估不到他們那麼有種
估計政權也只會騙人,沒一開始說明將來會變回市價
估計政權也只會騙人,沒一開始說明將來會變回市價
x希望可以影响到国内的政治气氛。
纳扎尔巴耶夫:普京大帝救我
普京:你要我怎么把坦克车从乌克兰调过来???
突厥民族还是猛啊,阿拉木图的市长办公室都被烧了
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/5/kazakh-protesters-storm-govt-office-in-almaty-as-crisis-deepens
普京:你要我怎么把坦克车从乌克兰调过来???
突厥民族还是猛啊,阿拉木图的市长办公室都被烧了
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/5/kazakh-protesters-storm-govt-office-in-almaty-as-crisis-deepens
目前哈萨克斯坦国际出口均不可用,疑似断网
看样有点像当年的罗马尼亚
中国身边发生东欧巨变那样的事情, 中国的老百姓不知道会怎么想:
看看人家军队警察都倒戈了, 要不咱们也去街上试试?
中国身边发生东欧巨变那样的事情, 中国的老百姓不知道会怎么想:
看看人家军队警察都倒戈了, 要不咱们也去街上试试?
AFP News Agency @AFP
#BREAKING Kazakhstan appeals to Moscow-backed military alliance for help quelling unrest
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1478804621346885632
#BREAKING Kazakhstan appeals to Moscow-backed military alliance for help quelling unrest
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1478804621346885632
AFP News Agency @AFP
#BREAKING Moscow-led alliance to send "peacekeeping forces" to protest-hit Kazakhstan, its chairman says
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1478844511740731396
#BREAKING Moscow-led alliance to send "peacekeeping forces" to protest-hit Kazakhstan, its chairman says
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1478844511740731396
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>> 我记得哈萨克斯坦也是相对独裁的国家,总统好像一直连任,而且在内部大搞个人崇拜。
纳扎尔巴耶夫,苏共政治局候补委员,2019年已经退了,在背后当太上皇,当个什么安全委员会主席,军队和强力部门还是支持他的。昨晚他和女儿 女婿已经飞往吉尔吉斯斯坦了。
说下分析
1,纳扎尔巴耶夫已经跑了,反对派获得了重大胜利。
2,反对派提了十二条诉求,说明斗争还在继续。
3,反对派这次比较聪明直接冲击了军火库和强力部门,没有遇到大反抗。
4,全国断网,部分地区断电话,说明政府还在抵抗。
5,集安组织派兵了。估计会有小规模内战。
6,中国已经躺平,不会干涉。
总结,小规模内战后,现政府会控制局势。
1,纳扎尔巴耶夫已经跑了,反对派获得了重大胜利。
2,反对派提了十二条诉求,说明斗争还在继续。
3,反对派这次比较聪明直接冲击了军火库和强力部门,没有遇到大反抗。
4,全国断网,部分地区断电话,说明政府还在抵抗。
5,集安组织派兵了。估计会有小规模内战。
6,中国已经躺平,不会干涉。
总结,小规模内战后,现政府会控制局势。
对付平民动用他国军援 俩不要脸的到家了
>> 对付平民动用他国军援 俩不要脸的到家了
其实真正令人寒心的是自由世界在提供这种实质性帮助上的无动于衷,专制国家可以抱团取暖,为什么自由世界却眼睁睁地看着好不容易武装起来即将推翻暴政的哈萨克斯坦人民在胜利的前夜倒在血泊之中?
https://twitter.com/__Inty__/status/1478846028388265987?s=20
https://twitter.com/__Inty__/status/1478859984439955457?s=20
https://twitter.com/__Inty__/status/1478735008420401152?s=20
https://twitter.com/__Inty__/status/1478818221096505344?s=20
https://twitter.com/__Inty__/status/1478893358386868226?s=20
纳老头子都跑路了,压根就没人撑得住局面
>> 支持哈薩克斯坦民衆起身推翻獨裁者, 希望你們順利、流血少, 成功後建立一個自由民主的國度.回復...
本来这是一场类似罗马尼亚人民推翻齐奥塞斯库政权的革命,已经有警察和军人倒戈,和武装起来的人民一道与效忠于纳扎尔巴耶夫和托卡耶夫的安全部队作战。区别在于苏军没有入侵罗马尼亚,而以俄罗斯为首的集体安全条约组织部队却大摇大摆地杀进了哈萨克斯坦。
https://pincong.rocks/video/3107
希望哈薩克斯坦人民能如其所願,如果能順便影響下東突厥的阿拉子民就更好了。
>> 这种人在关键时刻,不是出来安抚人民,而是先跑路。他是苏维埃帝国的太子,只是俄罗斯在哈萨的代理人而已
>> 其实真正令人寒心的是自由世界在提供这种实质性帮助上的无动于衷,专制国家可以抱团取暖,为什么自由...
合纵连横那一套到今天还是这样
怎奈何自由世界靠选票说话 选民里又有多少懂得唇亡齿寒的道理
以及,你怎么变观察了。。
>> 他是苏维埃帝国的太子,只是俄罗斯在哈萨的代理人而已
并不是,内政上纳扎尔巴耶夫搞了激进的去俄化运动,形成自己的国族认同,巩固统治。安全上要依靠俄罗斯。经济上要向中国出卖主权。
是一个实用主义的腐败独裁分子,巧妙的在三个鸡蛋上跳舞。
这事放在大陆,都不用中共动手,支人们自己就忍了
哈萨克斯坦的武德真是甩中国十条街,不亚于缅甸了
>> 纳扎尔巴耶夫,苏共政治局候补委员,2019年已经退了,在背后当太上皇,当个什么安全委员会主席,...
这个人其实很厉害的。如果苏联不解体,他是苏共总书记的强有力竞争者。很大可能会执掌苏联。
我觉得他的水平不应该还不如缅甸军政府的那班军头。
不过哈国一向是国际小透明,他最近的政局到底什么情况还真不清楚。
造反成功的希望决不在上街的这些人中,而在哈政府内的反对势力。现在有领头人站出来吗?
>> 这个人其实很厉害的。如果苏联不解体,他是苏共总书记的强有力竞争者。很大可能会执掌苏联。我觉得他...
这个人比缅甸军头厉害太多了。已经在语言和人口结构上扭转了俄语,俄族占优的局面。
反对势力么,主要依靠西方和土耳其的NGO。毕竟纳大汗为了驱逐俄国势力,不得不使出驱虎吞狼之计。放了二万个西方NGO进来。人口才1900万。
军队和强力部门中下层可能对反对派抱有同情,不过西方如果不派兵的话,基本上一个礼拜的小规模冲突后就结束了。人口少,地方大,几个城市控制住后面缺乏运动的能量。
>> 这个人其实很厉害的。如果苏联不解体,他是苏共总书记的强有力竞争者。很大可能会执掌苏联。我觉得他...
哈萨克斯坦和缅甸一样没有啥像样的反对派,不过即使俄爹出手镇压住以后也多半是长期陷入叙利亚状态
>> 哈萨解放之后这家伙要上战犯名单的
那就得看那俩敢不敢开枪了
>> 那就得看那俩敢不敢开枪了
不是已经开枪了?当前的国际形势对独裁者前所未有的友善,不开枪才有鬼了。哪怕是亚努科维奇,在逃离乌克兰前也命令金雕特种部队向人民开火了,后来金雕特种部队成员几乎全跑克里米亚延续它们的职业生涯去了。
https://twitter.com/__Inty__/status/1478893358386868226?s=20
>> 其实真正令人寒心的是自由世界在提供这种实质性帮助上的无动于衷,专制国家可以抱团取暖,为什么自由...没利益没人会帮,自由世界首先是资本主义世界。
突发新闻:此时此刻,据哈萨克斯坦卫星通讯社报道,在阿拉木图的共和国广场,约有50辆车,包括装甲运兵车、装甲车和军用卡车,以及安全部队人员沿着周边包围了广场。广场内有数百抗议者,军方迫使他们撤退到100米开外,之后双方发生了激烈的交火。广场周围地区处于全面军事管制之下,总统府被严密保护。
阿拉木图市民,请你们拿出基辅市民那样的勇气,全体上街,否则被围困的抗议者迟早会变成视频末尾冷冰冰的尸体。
https://twitter.com/__Inty__/status/1478932300440162314?s=20
>> 并不是,内政上纳扎尔巴耶夫搞了激进的去俄化运动,形成自己的国族认同,巩固统治。安全上要依靠俄罗...
何止如此啊!
我查了一个,这次导火索是液化气涨价,而哈国最大的液化气公司美国控股75%,俄国控股5%,哈国自己只有20%;涨价是因为液化气要卖给欧洲,保证欧洲用气(赚的更多)。
这个世界上有实力的国家他都讨好了。
现在推特上各路网军出动了 当然美国和cia境外势力首当其冲了 还有不乏这种浑水捣乱的安那其魔怔人
https://twitter.com/AnarchoLiberty/status/1478914191360765955
https://twitter.com/Votto007/status/1478767865725607939
https://twitter.com/AnarchoLiberty/status/1478914191360765955
https://twitter.com/Votto007/status/1478767865725607939
希望起连锁反应,像当年的茉莉花革命。
我倒认为现在美国也可以出兵,这些反人类国家政权该清算了。
>> 已经失败了。可惜主流媒体一点版面都不提供。
这下那些投诚的警察和军人有麻烦了,他们不仅会被驱逐出警队和军队,还极有可能会坐牢。至于下面这些被老百姓缴械的军事人员,他们大概率会重新履职,但今后应该不会受到上级重用和提拔。
https://twitter.com/skbozphd/status/1478956885277495296?s=20
https://twitter.com/iyouport_news/status/1478956195788558336?s=20
>> 现在推特上各路网军出动了 当然美国和cia境外势力首当其冲了 还有不乏这种浑水捣乱的安那其魔怔...
都差点忘了今天是一个非常敏感的日子,一群真正的爱国者受难的日子。不过我必须得承认这个热度哈萨克斯坦的五毛蹭得好,既抨击了美式民主,也没得罪拜登政府,还押韵了。
哈萨克斯坦这条线美国及其盟友应该也已经准备多年,现在也算是时候爆破。普京肯定会出兵的--不出兵的话俄罗斯二次解体就板上钉钉。
除非哈薩克反對派爭取到土耳其的實際援助 不然下場就像布達佩斯起義一樣遭俄國人血腥鎮壓
>> 哈萨克斯坦这条线美国及其盟友应该也已经准备多年,现在也算是时候爆破。普京肯定会出兵的--不出兵...
不确定是拜登还是八个大大,俄爹出手应该还能暂时压下来,不过俄爹精力有限未来叙利亚化恐不可避
目前还是不知道幕后是谁?如果是欧美,应该是动用哈萨克斯坦这条线分担最近西线乌克兰的压力,迫使俄罗斯先解决哈萨克的问题,因为俄罗斯没有国力两线作战。只要俄罗斯对乌克兰没有办法完全投入,欧美在乌克兰就占据主动,如果哈萨克就此碎片化成亚国家部落的大乱斗,就能创造第二个叙利亚消耗俄罗斯的精力,而且就会严重威胁到新疆的安全,分散东线台海的压力。这样就可以把中俄消耗在内亚,如果真是如此,牺牲中亚争取时间完成两大洋自由世界的两线优势,对国力收缩期的美国不失为最有利的计策,但就是苦了中亚人了。
>> 何止如此啊!我查了一个,这次导火索是液化气涨价,而哈国最大的液化气公司美国控股75%,俄国控股...难怪以美帝为首的自由世界不用实际行动支持,原来涨价他们也有一份利益在里面
>> 不确定是拜登还是八个大大,俄爹出手应该还能暂时压下来,不过俄爹精力有限未来叙利亚化恐不可避
现在资料有限,很难判断
AFP News Agency @AFP
#UPDATE Kazakhstan police killed "dozens" of protesters overnight as they tried to storm government buildings in Almaty, police tell the media.
"Extremist forces tried to assault administrative buildings, the Almaty city police department... Dozens of assailants were eliminated"
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1478976702856704003
RT @RT_com
BREAKING: The CSTO has sent peacekeepers to #Kazakhstan - officials
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1478987445848973315
#UPDATE Kazakhstan police killed "dozens" of protesters overnight as they tried to storm government buildings in Almaty, police tell the media.
"Extremist forces tried to assault administrative buildings, the Almaty city police department... Dozens of assailants were eliminated"
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1478976702856704003
RT @RT_com
BREAKING: The CSTO has sent peacekeepers to #Kazakhstan - officials
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1478987445848973315
哈萨克斯坦在2019年爆发过反对墙国投资陷入国家债务的游行,看来等独裁政府下台后墙国又要多一个民主敌对国家了。
中共的国际操作真心牛比,真心朋友没几个,反倒是敌对国家越来越多。
中共的国际操作真心牛比,真心朋友没几个,反倒是敌对国家越来越多。
会失败,必然失败,没有任何意义。你们就不要自嗨了。听风就是雨。要真着急就去现场啊。
这种自发的起义没啥用,你们崇拜的西方自由世界陷在金元里根本不愿意醒来,是板上钉钉的死肉罢了。
不过这个还是有种的,比香港强,知道对手是什么样的东西,根本不去多废话浪费在马路上,直接抓住关键搞枪!
这种自发的起义没啥用,你们崇拜的西方自由世界陷在金元里根本不愿意醒来,是板上钉钉的死肉罢了。
不过这个还是有种的,比香港强,知道对手是什么样的东西,根本不去多废话浪费在马路上,直接抓住关键搞枪!
土耳其如果能真的促成哈萨克斯坦、土库曼斯坦、乌兹别克斯坦、吉尔吉斯斯坦、阿塞拜疆组建“突厥国家联盟”,北约再多提供一些技术和支援(无人机、战车、电子战),在中亚形成一个“突厥联合体”,一个工业化的穆斯林大国要冉冉升起。
配合东欧乌克兰、波罗的海诸国,干死老毛子,解体俄罗斯。(未来十年俄罗斯继承苏联的核弹头大部分也到保质期了)
我非常看好21世纪的穆斯林世界,他们有人口数量和年龄结构的优势。如果还能普及教育和世俗化现代化改革,未来简直无人可挡。
21世纪的亚洲属于穆斯林和印度,中共国从2024以后就是盛极而衰、断崖式的一路向下、深不见底。
配合东欧乌克兰、波罗的海诸国,干死老毛子,解体俄罗斯。(未来十年俄罗斯继承苏联的核弹头大部分也到保质期了)
我非常看好21世纪的穆斯林世界,他们有人口数量和年龄结构的优势。如果还能普及教育和世俗化现代化改革,未来简直无人可挡。
21世纪的亚洲属于穆斯林和印度,中共国从2024以后就是盛极而衰、断崖式的一路向下、深不见底。
这对于沦陷区来说是一件大事。
纳扎尔巴耶夫在哈萨克斯坦的政治模式非常像是碾平在大陆的政治模式,而且哈萨克是在中亚通向中国的关键道路上扮演一个前苏联官僚治国的康米势力残余,哈萨克的局面非常有可能预示这条后康米道路上其他国家的未来。无论是ngo获胜美国下大力干涉,还是被伊斯兰势力主导,中亚政治版图的变化都会极大影响大陆局面。
个人非常希望哈萨克能够建立民主,不过如果俄罗斯干涉,大概也只会是一片混乱给伊斯兰势力开辟道路,如果这种事真的发生,八个大大的势力向沦陷区发展的可能也大大增加。而如果哈萨克顺利民主,那大陆体系就会遭遇重挫,民主包围圈由c型变成o型,局势将对包子非常不利。
祝愿哈萨克民主运动能够胜利!
纳扎尔巴耶夫在哈萨克斯坦的政治模式非常像是碾平在大陆的政治模式,而且哈萨克是在中亚通向中国的关键道路上扮演一个前苏联官僚治国的康米势力残余,哈萨克的局面非常有可能预示这条后康米道路上其他国家的未来。无论是ngo获胜美国下大力干涉,还是被伊斯兰势力主导,中亚政治版图的变化都会极大影响大陆局面。
个人非常希望哈萨克能够建立民主,不过如果俄罗斯干涉,大概也只会是一片混乱给伊斯兰势力开辟道路,如果这种事真的发生,八个大大的势力向沦陷区发展的可能也大大增加。而如果哈萨克顺利民主,那大陆体系就会遭遇重挫,民主包围圈由c型变成o型,局势将对包子非常不利。
祝愿哈萨克民主运动能够胜利!
>> AFP News Agency @AFP#UPDATE Kazakhstan police k...
真的都是当地的警察杀的?毛子兵已经杀到阿拉木图了,听这噼里啪啦的枪声,它们镇压哈萨克斯坦人民可没有任何心理负担,能毫不犹豫地开枪。
如果哈萨克斯坦军队没有成建制地倒戈,即便集体安全条约组织组成的所谓维和部队只有几百人也能控制住局势,这就是现代化战争的常态,人民根本无法与武器精良且训练有素的杀人机器作战。
https://twitter.com/__Inty__/status/1478991609035247616?s=20
https://upload.cc/i1/2022/01/06/WS5t0i.jpg
>> 会失败,必然失败,没有任何意义。你们就不要自嗨了。听风就是雨。要真着急就去现场啊。这种自发的起...
老百姓是搞到枪了,然而这次换政府找来境外势力直接武力干涉内政了,计划赶不上变化。哈萨克斯坦人民太悲催了,又向全世界示范了一次民主革命是如何失败的。
>> 真的都是当地的警察杀的?毛子兵已经杀到阿拉木图了,听这噼里啪啦的枪声,它们镇压哈萨克斯坦人民可...
华盛顿不也抗英八年呢,先别急着神话军队,
看图片就是疑似BTR-80的摩托化轻步兵,车载可能有12.7,14.5重机枪或者2A72机炮,民众就算有轻武器未经训练命中率感人,当然是被虐菜了。话说美国陆军新兵也要20多个周的训练,所以我历来就不看好和平演变的路线,民众上街冲入政府机关核心统治区的做法很危险。而武装路线则是需要充足准备才能成事,要是民众早点学习车臣的狙击、机枪、RPG三人小组战术(远、中、反甲),俄军就要死的很惨。
民主国家这时候全都在干什么??日台韩?欧盟?5眼??
>> 何止如此啊!我查了一个,这次导火索是液化气涨价,而哈国最大的液化气公司美国控股75%,俄国控股...
我吐个槽,其实现在地球上哪些所谓的民主国家(欧盟,美国等等)他们实际上是最不希望奴隶制国家民主化的,你说的占股比例就是本质。他们要的就是自己富足,然后通过其他方式吸血奴隶制国家。同时暗中帮奴隶制政府维稳。
>> 华盛顿不也抗英八年呢,先别急着神话军队,看图片就是疑似BTR-80的摩托化轻步兵,车载可能有1...
你要考虑到武力升级的问题,平民的武装会始终落后于正规军。普京现在认为派这些部队过去就能把事情摆平,如果哈萨克斯坦民众组织起车臣人那样的战斗团体,就该轮到俄军出动无人机来收割他们的生命了。
>> 哈萨克斯坦这条线美国及其盟友应该也已经准备多年,现在也算是时候爆破。普京肯定会出兵的--不出兵...
北約甚麼也沒做吧,不過北約會否跳下來就不知了
另外俄解體想太多吧,本身車臣一早打過了,也不夠打
另外怎麼這串來了一堆怪西方,都罵西方不是好人?
>> 你要考虑到武力升级的问题,平民的武装会始终落后于正规军。普京现在认为派这些部队过去就能把事情摆...
BBC說一些地方的安全部隊倒向抗議者一邊,哈國人幸福,有自已的國家,安全部隊也是支持國家和國民而不是政權
>> 华盛顿不也抗英八年呢,先别急着神话军队,看图片就是疑似BTR-80的摩托化轻步兵,车载可能有1...
还有华盛顿领导美国人抗击英军那会,正规军和民兵的火力差距不会太大,正规军也就多几门前装火炮这样吧,所以双方才有得打。后面美国建国,还将民兵推翻暴政写入宪法允许人民持有武器,只是这些建国先贤们的思维还是存在局限性,无法预见杀人武器会进化到今天如此强大的地步。
>> 你要考虑到武力升级的问题,平民的武装会始终落后于正规军。普京现在认为派这些部队过去就能把事情摆...
民众的临时武装是无法和正规军硬刚的,占点小便宜,就要迅速逃跑融入人群市井。
作为一支“存在武装”刷存在感,壮大政治影响力,就是用来恶心他、嘲讽权威政府的,敌进我退,敌驻我扰,敌退我进,敌疲我打。
現場直播
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylfEp1dHyhw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylfEp1dHyhw
>> 还有华盛顿领导美国人抗击英军那会,正规军和民兵的火力差距不会太大,正规军也就多几门前装火炮这样...
民众也可以发明新型武器,就看你敢不敢、想不想了,贫穷限制了想象力。毛不是说过,没有枪,没有炮,没有无人机,敌人给我们造嘛。
>> BBC說一些地方的安全部隊倒向抗議者一邊,哈國人幸福,有自已的國家,安全部隊也是支持國家和國民...
就我目前掌握的情况来看,并没有成建制的部队倒戈,不过既然托卡耶夫政府呼叫外国援军进来“平叛”,显然也是担心军队不忍心对自己的同胞下死手,有哗变的可能。
>> 民众也可以发明新型武器,就看你敢不敢、想不想了,贫穷限制了想象力。毛不是说过,没有枪,没有炮,...
共产党还忽悠我们它们是靠小米加步枪打败国民党军队的,实际情况呢,全靠大炮。解放军有很多炮兵是由日本教官培养出来的,或干脆就是原日本军人充当,身为技术兵种又训练娴熟,炮自然打得既快且准。
>> RT這些全站假新聞看來做甚麼?俄還抺黑革命者為極端份子呢,革命者一點也不極端,最極端是普京
RT在报道俄国政府派军这一点上,没有制造假新闻的需要,而且早于英语主流媒体。更何况我在做这条更新的时候,Twitter上很多其他非官方信息来源已经证实这条消息。至于RT的性质,几年前看乌克兰的时候我就清楚了。
行动太仓促了,估计是配合最近的谈判。
>> 就我目前掌握的情况来看,并没有成建制的部队倒戈,不过既然托卡耶夫政府呼叫外国援军进来“平叛”,...
比單方面被屠好多了
安全部隊有槍又有人吧
就算前頭目不叫警軍去屠人,但警軍看到民心所向也會轉為支持公民,又或在要屠人時保持中立不屠人
>> 抺黑別人為極端份子還不是假新聞?
在这条短消息里RT没有做抹黑别人的事情,它说的peacekeeping是什么意思,这里读者也都清楚,不会造成误解。再重复一遍:RT是什么性质我很清楚,不用您教我。谢谢。
>> 比單方面被屠好多了安全部隊有槍又有人吧就算前頭目不叫警軍去屠人,但警軍看到民心所向也會轉為支持...
当年邓小平屠戮北京的市民和学生也考虑了军队哗变的问题,所以才从全国各地抽调了好几支部队进京且排除掉北京籍的军人,让它们彼此牵制互为监军,传言27军就杀了其它部队一些拒绝镇压人民的士兵。
MOSCOW — Russian troops landed in Kazakhstan on Thursday after the Central Asian country’s president asked for help to quell sweeping anti-government protests — a major test of a Moscow-led military alliance as the Kremlin deepened its role in the crisis.
“Dozens” of demonstrators were killed, a Kazakh official said, as security forces tried to put down protests that began with outrage over a fuel price hike but have grown into a challenge to a political system largely unchanged since the end of the Soviet Union three decades ago.
It is the first time the Collective Security Treaty Organization, founded after the dissolution of the Soviet Union and composed of six former members, has agreed to deploy “peacekeepers” to aid a member country. Although the bloc has long been seen as Russia’s answer to NATO, its first joint action is ending a domestic protest rather than combating an attack from an external force.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/01/06/kazakhstan-protests-russia-csto-tokayev/
“Dozens” of demonstrators were killed, a Kazakh official said, as security forces tried to put down protests that began with outrage over a fuel price hike but have grown into a challenge to a political system largely unchanged since the end of the Soviet Union three decades ago.
It is the first time the Collective Security Treaty Organization, founded after the dissolution of the Soviet Union and composed of six former members, has agreed to deploy “peacekeepers” to aid a member country. Although the bloc has long been seen as Russia’s answer to NATO, its first joint action is ending a domestic protest rather than combating an attack from an external force.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/01/06/kazakhstan-protests-russia-csto-tokayev/
Abdujalil A @abdujalil [from BBC News]
It sounds like a real battle going on the square. From what i can tell - the sound of gunfire, machine guns in addition to stun grenades and what sounds like fireworks #Almaty #Kazakhstan
https://twitter.com/abdujalil/status/1479092299263094790
It sounds like a real battle going on the square. From what i can tell - the sound of gunfire, machine guns in addition to stun grenades and what sounds like fireworks #Almaty #Kazakhstan
https://twitter.com/abdujalil/status/1479092299263094790
>> 哈萨克斯坦这条线美国及其盟友应该也已经准备多年,现在也算是时候爆破。普京肯定会出兵的--不出兵...
哈萨克长期以来处于大博弈的战线后方,是俄罗斯在中亚的FOB,在这个节点而且在这个地点上爆炸,估计是连美国都没有意料到的。
>> 美国陆军新兵也要20多个周的训练亂說最快那種一個月就行而現代戰爭急起來訓練數小時就行實際告訴你一名正規美軍陸軍士兵的基礎戰鬥訓練至少需要10週,一個月不夠(立申問過陸軍招募人)
不知道俄罗斯在乌克兰问题上会不会让步。
很难想象哦可以在哈萨克斯坦和乌克兰同时开展军事行动
很难想象哦可以在哈萨克斯坦和乌克兰同时开展军事行动

