曾經的共產黨訴求過什麼？（台灣鄉親們聽起來熟不熟悉 lol）
Piano: Daddy Chang
Quotes: CCP oldheads
戲劇的歷史圖畫，無止盡的重蹈！
政治人物們的話；咱們聽聽就好！
“一個不是人民選舉出來的政府，有什麼臉面代表國家？愛這樣的國家就是對祖國的背叛” - 毛澤東 1944年6月13日《解放日報》
"A government that's not elected by the people, what prestige does this government have to represent the people? To love a nation as such is to betray one's own motherland!" - Mao Zedong (Head of CCP) 6 / 13 / 1944 <Jiefang Daily> (CCP Newspaper)
“中國是有缺陷，而且是很大的缺陷，就是缺乏【民主】。只有加上民主，中國才能前進一步。民主必須是各方面的，只有建立在【言論出版集會結社的自由】與【民主選舉政府】的基礎上面，才是有力的政治。” - 毛澤東 1944年6月12日
"China has flaws, big flaws, that flaw is the lack of democracy. Only when we add democracy to China can we then advance China. Democracy has to be in various aspects; it has to be built on free speech and freedom of assembly; and the government has to be built on free democratic elections to have basis & credibility." - Mao Zedong 6 / 12 / 1944
“目前推行【民主政治】，主要關鍵在於【結束一黨治國】。此問題一日不解決，則國事勢必包攬於一黨之手；才智之士，無從引進，良好建議，不能實行。” - 《解放日報》 1941年10月28日
"The current push of democratic politics is mainly about ending one party system. If this issue is not solved then state affairs are dictated by one party; intellects won't be introduced, good advices won't be implemented." - <Jiefang Daily 10 / 28 / 1941> (CCP Newspaper)
“民主的潮流正在洶湧，現在是民權的時代，人民應有言論，出版，集會，結社和身體的自由是真理，實現民主政治是真理，真理是要勝利的，所以高舉民主大旗奮鬥著的世界和中國人民是一定要勝利的。” - 《新華日報》 1944年1月22日
"Trend of democracy is a turbulent, this is the era of civil rights, people shall have freedom of speech, freedom of publishing free speech, freedom of assembly & association, personal freedom & etc, ... all of these are truth, achieving democracy is truth, truth shall prevail, therefore holding the flag of democracy high with the struggling worlds shall help Chinese people prevail." - <Xinhua Daily 1 /22 / 1944> (CCP Newspaper)
“是要徹底地，充分地，有效地實行【普選制】，使人民能在實際上享有普通，平等的【選舉權】，被選舉權，則必須由中山先生所說，在選舉以前；保障各地方團體及人民有選舉之自由，有提出議案及宣傳討論之自由。也就是確定人民有集會，結社，言論，出版的完全自由權。” - 《新華日報》 1944年2月2日
"We have to throughly and fully implement general election, let the people practice real & equal rights to vote, to run for elections, to implement Dr. Sun Yat-sen's ideology of; guaranteeing each local & group the rights to vote, the rights to propose a motion; the rights to assemble, to associate, to free speech, and to pubish free speech." - <Xinhua Daily 2 / 2 / 1944> (CCP Newspaper)
“民主制度比不民主制度更好，這和機器工業比手工業生產更好一樣，在外國如此，在中國也如此。” - 《新華日報》 1944年5月11日
"Democratic regimes are better than undemocratic regimes, just like machinery-industries are better than handicraft industries, it's the same abroad as well as in China." - <Xinhua Daily 5 / 11 / 1944> (CCP Newspaper)
“我們認為欲實行憲政，必須先實行憲改的先決條件。我認為最重要的先決條件有三個：一是保障人民民主自由；二是【開放黨禁】；三是實行地方自治。目前全國人民最迫切需要的自由是集會結社的自由，是【言論出版的自由】” - 周恩來 1944年延安演講
"We believe that; to implement a constitutional government, we need a condition for amendments. The three main conditions are: freedom & democracy, ending the one party system, & autonomy of local self-governance. The current liberty we need the most are; freedom to assemble, and freedom of publishing free speech." - Zhou Enlai (Served under Mao as PRC's Premier)'s 1944 speech
“當人民的組織已有相當的程度，人民能否選舉自己所願意的人來管理自己事情的時候，共產黨就毫無保留地【還政於民】，將政權全部交給【人民所選舉的政黨】管理。共產黨並不願意包辦政府，也是包辦不了的。” - 劉少奇 1940年
"When the people are constitutive to a certain degree, when they can elect whom they want to manage their state affairs and policies, CCP will completely return politics back to the people, & give the regime to a party that is elected by the people. CCP does not want to monopolize the government, nor can she monopolize the government." - Liu Shaoqi (Chairman of PRC after Mao 1959 - 1968)
“黨和政府是兩種不同的組織系統，不能對政府下令。” - 董必武
"The party and the government are two different systems, the party cannot be in charge of the government." - Dong Biwu (Acting Chairman of PRC after Mao & Liu Shaoqi 1972 - 1975)
“把【一黨專政】化一下妝，當做民主的代用品，方法雖然巧妙，然而和人民的願望相去十萬八千里。中國的人民都在睜著眼看：不要拿民主的代用品來欺騙我們啊！” - 《新華日報》 1945年1月28日
"To put makeup on one-party dictatorship as a replacement for democracy, though the method is clever, it is however far from the people's aspiration. All Chinese people are watching with their eyes open: don't use this replacement of democracy to fool us!" - <Xinhua Daily 1 / 28 / 1945> (CCP Newspaper)
“他們希望中國人民知識與教育程度提高到歐美資產階級民主國家那樣再來實現民主政治…正是在民主制度下更容易教育和訓練民眾。” - 《新華日報》 1939年2月25日
"They say they hope to see Chinese people's education and knowledge reach to as level such as western upper-middle class first before implementing democracy... though it is easier to educate and grow knowledge of the public under a democratic regime." - <Xinhua Daily 2 / 25 / 1939> (CCP Newspaper)
“曾有一種看法，以為民主可以等人家給予。以為天下有好心人把民主給人民，於是就有了等待這種’民主‘，正如等待二百元的頭獎一樣。但是中外古今的歷史都證明了，民主是從人民的爭取和鬥爭中得到的結果，絕不是一種可以幸得的禮物。” - 《新華日報》 1939年7月3日
"There used to be a view that democracy can be given, assuming that there are kind folks out there that will give the people democracy, causing folks to wait around for democracy; like waiting to win a lottery ticket. But ancient & modern history has shown us that the fruit of democracy only comes from strive & struggle of the people, it is not given as a gift." - <Xinhua Daily 7 / 3 / 1939> (CCP Newspaper)
Quotes: CCP oldheads
戲劇的歷史圖畫，無止盡的重蹈！
政治人物們的話；咱們聽聽就好！
“一個不是人民選舉出來的政府，有什麼臉面代表國家？愛這樣的國家就是對祖國的背叛” - 毛澤東 1944年6月13日《解放日報》
"A government that's not elected by the people, what prestige does this government have to represent the people? To love a nation as such is to betray one's own motherland!" - Mao Zedong (Head of CCP) 6 / 13 / 1944 <Jiefang Daily> (CCP Newspaper)
“中國是有缺陷，而且是很大的缺陷，就是缺乏【民主】。只有加上民主，中國才能前進一步。民主必須是各方面的，只有建立在【言論出版集會結社的自由】與【民主選舉政府】的基礎上面，才是有力的政治。” - 毛澤東 1944年6月12日
"China has flaws, big flaws, that flaw is the lack of democracy. Only when we add democracy to China can we then advance China. Democracy has to be in various aspects; it has to be built on free speech and freedom of assembly; and the government has to be built on free democratic elections to have basis & credibility." - Mao Zedong 6 / 12 / 1944
“目前推行【民主政治】，主要關鍵在於【結束一黨治國】。此問題一日不解決，則國事勢必包攬於一黨之手；才智之士，無從引進，良好建議，不能實行。” - 《解放日報》 1941年10月28日
"The current push of democratic politics is mainly about ending one party system. If this issue is not solved then state affairs are dictated by one party; intellects won't be introduced, good advices won't be implemented." - <Jiefang Daily 10 / 28 / 1941> (CCP Newspaper)
“民主的潮流正在洶湧，現在是民權的時代，人民應有言論，出版，集會，結社和身體的自由是真理，實現民主政治是真理，真理是要勝利的，所以高舉民主大旗奮鬥著的世界和中國人民是一定要勝利的。” - 《新華日報》 1944年1月22日
"Trend of democracy is a turbulent, this is the era of civil rights, people shall have freedom of speech, freedom of publishing free speech, freedom of assembly & association, personal freedom & etc, ... all of these are truth, achieving democracy is truth, truth shall prevail, therefore holding the flag of democracy high with the struggling worlds shall help Chinese people prevail." - <Xinhua Daily 1 /22 / 1944> (CCP Newspaper)
“是要徹底地，充分地，有效地實行【普選制】，使人民能在實際上享有普通，平等的【選舉權】，被選舉權，則必須由中山先生所說，在選舉以前；保障各地方團體及人民有選舉之自由，有提出議案及宣傳討論之自由。也就是確定人民有集會，結社，言論，出版的完全自由權。” - 《新華日報》 1944年2月2日
"We have to throughly and fully implement general election, let the people practice real & equal rights to vote, to run for elections, to implement Dr. Sun Yat-sen's ideology of; guaranteeing each local & group the rights to vote, the rights to propose a motion; the rights to assemble, to associate, to free speech, and to pubish free speech." - <Xinhua Daily 2 / 2 / 1944> (CCP Newspaper)
“民主制度比不民主制度更好，這和機器工業比手工業生產更好一樣，在外國如此，在中國也如此。” - 《新華日報》 1944年5月11日
"Democratic regimes are better than undemocratic regimes, just like machinery-industries are better than handicraft industries, it's the same abroad as well as in China." - <Xinhua Daily 5 / 11 / 1944> (CCP Newspaper)
“我們認為欲實行憲政，必須先實行憲改的先決條件。我認為最重要的先決條件有三個：一是保障人民民主自由；二是【開放黨禁】；三是實行地方自治。目前全國人民最迫切需要的自由是集會結社的自由，是【言論出版的自由】” - 周恩來 1944年延安演講
"We believe that; to implement a constitutional government, we need a condition for amendments. The three main conditions are: freedom & democracy, ending the one party system, & autonomy of local self-governance. The current liberty we need the most are; freedom to assemble, and freedom of publishing free speech." - Zhou Enlai (Served under Mao as PRC's Premier)'s 1944 speech
“當人民的組織已有相當的程度，人民能否選舉自己所願意的人來管理自己事情的時候，共產黨就毫無保留地【還政於民】，將政權全部交給【人民所選舉的政黨】管理。共產黨並不願意包辦政府，也是包辦不了的。” - 劉少奇 1940年
"When the people are constitutive to a certain degree, when they can elect whom they want to manage their state affairs and policies, CCP will completely return politics back to the people, & give the regime to a party that is elected by the people. CCP does not want to monopolize the government, nor can she monopolize the government." - Liu Shaoqi (Chairman of PRC after Mao 1959 - 1968)
“黨和政府是兩種不同的組織系統，不能對政府下令。” - 董必武
"The party and the government are two different systems, the party cannot be in charge of the government." - Dong Biwu (Acting Chairman of PRC after Mao & Liu Shaoqi 1972 - 1975)
“把【一黨專政】化一下妝，當做民主的代用品，方法雖然巧妙，然而和人民的願望相去十萬八千里。中國的人民都在睜著眼看：不要拿民主的代用品來欺騙我們啊！” - 《新華日報》 1945年1月28日
"To put makeup on one-party dictatorship as a replacement for democracy, though the method is clever, it is however far from the people's aspiration. All Chinese people are watching with their eyes open: don't use this replacement of democracy to fool us!" - <Xinhua Daily 1 / 28 / 1945> (CCP Newspaper)
“他們希望中國人民知識與教育程度提高到歐美資產階級民主國家那樣再來實現民主政治…正是在民主制度下更容易教育和訓練民眾。” - 《新華日報》 1939年2月25日
"They say they hope to see Chinese people's education and knowledge reach to as level such as western upper-middle class first before implementing democracy... though it is easier to educate and grow knowledge of the public under a democratic regime." - <Xinhua Daily 2 / 25 / 1939> (CCP Newspaper)
“曾有一種看法，以為民主可以等人家給予。以為天下有好心人把民主給人民，於是就有了等待這種’民主‘，正如等待二百元的頭獎一樣。但是中外古今的歷史都證明了，民主是從人民的爭取和鬥爭中得到的結果，絕不是一種可以幸得的禮物。” - 《新華日報》 1939年7月3日
"There used to be a view that democracy can be given, assuming that there are kind folks out there that will give the people democracy, causing folks to wait around for democracy; like waiting to win a lottery ticket. But ancient & modern history has shown us that the fruit of democracy only comes from strive & struggle of the people, it is not given as a gift." - <Xinhua Daily 7 / 3 / 1939> (CCP Newspaper)
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"mao zedong 6/12/1994"
差點跳起來買機票直奔首都北京天安門的紀念堂, 退治喪尸.
土匪的話就不用聽了, 一幫信奉馬教的强盜, 不配談自由、民主、憲政.
和人一樣聼其言觀其行, 七十多年幹啥了在座諸位也都明白.
自由、民主、憲政, 三樣一樣都做不到, 若有一樣做到了我跑品蔥反啥極權喲.
要麽我是神經病, 要麽共黨太無恥、殘暴, 看看共黨開的集中營、建的墻、擴散的武漢肺炎.
我倒想是神經病呢, 這樣大家少受苦啊. 可惜現實説明一切.
沒啥初衷, 只是王侯將相寧有種乎的竊國賊子.
"mao zedong 6/12/1994"
差點跳起來買機票直奔首都北京天安門的紀念堂, 退治喪尸.
土匪的話就不用聽了, 一幫信奉馬教的强盜, 不配談自由、民主、憲政.
和人一樣聼其言觀其行, 七十多年幹啥了在座諸位也都明白.
自由、民主、憲政, 三樣一樣都做不到, 若有一樣做到了我跑品蔥反啥極權喲.
要麽我是神經病, 要麽共黨太無恥、殘暴, 看看共黨開的集中營、建的墻、擴散的武漢肺炎.
我倒想是神經病呢, 這樣大家少受苦啊. 可惜現實説明一切.
沒啥初衷, 只是王侯將相寧有種乎的竊國賊子.
主贴都是毛泽东夺权后的，共产党权力夺取包装宣传。
我大致说说。陈独秀和早期的中共。
陈独秀这个人还是有点理想的。行动和言行不愧是中共理论的创造者之一。
他最后的晚年言论除了公示在外的。已经所有被共匪抹杀。
从陈独秀最后晚年言论。他还在坚持乌托邦式的国家结构理念 完全不容于毛浙东的共匪。甚至不容于拖派。
共匪内部的反对派，拖派。由于资料太少。很多掌握在毛共匪派的手里。
被定性为反党组织在1952年被全部干掉，比共匪反右还早几年。这派属于温和夺权的。
还有几个早期共党北大出生创党元老，比如陈公博这些。都几乎最后脱离毛的共匪组织。
这群又想共产又没夺权能力。和个人私有权力欲背离的。几乎都失败的。
张国涛属于接近军阀性质。
还有早期被清洗的理念不同的各有各
特色。
向忠发书记中共第二任总书记属于王洪文式的中间产物，还没有形成自己特色和理念就被拿下马了。
总之，要乌托邦式的共产理念跟毛泽东这种土匪的中国特色共产主义夺权斗争政治。两种道路根本不能共处。
我大致说说。陈独秀和早期的中共。
陈独秀这个人还是有点理想的。行动和言行不愧是中共理论的创造者之一。
他最后的晚年言论除了公示在外的。已经所有被共匪抹杀。
从陈独秀最后晚年言论。他还在坚持乌托邦式的国家结构理念 完全不容于毛浙东的共匪。甚至不容于拖派。
共匪内部的反对派，拖派。由于资料太少。很多掌握在毛共匪派的手里。
被定性为反党组织在1952年被全部干掉，比共匪反右还早几年。这派属于温和夺权的。
还有几个早期共党北大出生创党元老，比如陈公博这些。都几乎最后脱离毛的共匪组织。
这群又想共产又没夺权能力。和个人私有权力欲背离的。几乎都失败的。
张国涛属于接近军阀性质。
还有早期被清洗的理念不同的各有各
特色。
向忠发书记中共第二任总书记属于王洪文式的中间产物，还没有形成自己特色和理念就被拿下马了。
总之，要乌托邦式的共产理念跟毛泽东这种土匪的中国特色共产主义夺权斗争政治。两种道路根本不能共处。
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