維基解密希拉蕊2011電郵-拋棄台灣換取中國駐銷部分美債---(不稀奇....)
From: Hillary Clinton To: Jake Sullivan Date: 2011-11-11 11:46 Subject: INTERESTING ARTICLE
UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05787353 Date: 10/30/2015RELEASE IN FULL From: H <hrod17@clintonemail.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 6:46 PM To: 'sullivanjj@state.gov' Subject: Re: Interesting article I saw it and thought it was so clever. Let's discuss. Also, we only have 15 minutes left in here. Original Message --- From: Sullivan, Jacob J [mailto:SullivanJJ@state.gov] Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 06:19 PM . To: H Subject:
Interesting article For your reading pleasure while you endure open governance and try to steal glances at your blackberry: OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR To Save Our Economy, Ditch Taiwan By PAUL V. KANE Published: November 11, 2011 Washington WITH a single bold act, President Obama could correct the country's course, help assure his re-election, and preserve our children's future. He needs to redefine America's mindset about national security away from the old defense mentality that American power derives predominantly from our military might, rather than from the strength, agility and competitiveness of our economy.
He should make it clear that today American jobs and wealth matter more than military prowess. As Adm. Mike Mullen, then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, declared last year, "The most significant threat to our national security is our debt." There are dozens of initiatives President Obama could undertake to strengthen our economic security.
Here is one: He should enter into closed-door negotiations with Chinese leaders to write off the $1.14 trillion of American debt currently held by China in exchange for a deal to end American military assistance and arms sales to Taiwan and terminate the current United States-Taiwan defense arrangement by 2015. This would be a most precious prize to the cautious men in Beijing, one they would give dearly to achieve.
After all, our relationship with Taiwan, as revised in 1979, is a vestige of the cold war. Today, America has little strategic interest in Taiwan, which is gradually integrating with China economically by investing in and forming joint ventures with mainland Chinese firms. The island's absorption into mainland China is inevitable.
UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05787353 Date: 10/30/2015
But the status quo is dangerous; if Taiwanese nationalist politicians decided to declare independence or if Beijing's hawks tired of waiting for integration and moved to take Taiwan by force, America could suddenly be drawn into a multitrillion-dollar war. There will be "China hawks" who denounce any deal on Taiwan as American capitulation, but their fear of a Red China menacing Asia is anachronistic.
Portraying the United States as a democratic Athens threatened by China's autocratic Sparta makes for sensational imagery, but nothing could be further from reality. The battle today is between competing balance sheets, and it is fought in board rooms; it is not a geopolitical struggle to militarily or ideologically "dominate" the Pacific. In fact, China and the United States have interlocking economic interests.
China's greatest military asset is actually the United States Navy, which keeps the sea lanes safe for China's resources and products to flow freely. China would want a deal on Taiwan for several reasons. First, Taiwan is Beijing's unspoken but hard-to-hide top priority for symbolic and strategic reasons; only access to water and energy mean more to Chinese leaders. Second, a deal would open a clearer path for the gradual, orderly integration of Taiwan into China. Third, it would undermine hard-line militarists who use the Taiwan issue to stoke nationalist flames, sideline pro- Western technocrats and extract larger military budgets.
And finally, it would save China the considerable sums it has been spending on a vast military buildup. Jeffrey Lewis, an East Asia expert at the Monterey Institute of International Studies, estimated that one-fourth to one- third of China's defense spending goes to forces in the vicinity of Taiwan - at a cost of $30 billion to $50 billion a year. A deal for the resolution of Taiwan's status could save China $500 billion in defense spending by 2020 and allow Beijing to break even by 2030, while reducing America's debt and serving our broader economic interests.
The Chinese leadership would be startled - for a change - if the United States were to adopt such a savvy negotiating posture. Beyond reducing our debt, a Taiwan deal could pressure Beijing to end its political and economic support for pariah states like Iran, North Korea and Syria and to exert a moderating influence over an unstable Pakistan. It would be a game changer. The deal would eliminate almost 10 percent of our national debt without raising taxes or cutting spending; it would redirect American foreign policy away from dated cold-war-era entanglements and toward our contemporary economic and strategic interests; and it would eliminate the risk of involvement in a costly war with China.
Critics will call this proposal impractical, even absurd. They will say it doesn't have a prayer of passing Congress, and doesn't acknowledge political realities. They might be right - today. But by pursuing this agenda, Mr. Obama would change the calculus and political reality. And Congress should see a deal with China as an opportunity to make itself credible again.
Debt is not in itself bad, when managed, but today's unsustainable debt will suffocate our economy,,our democracy and our children's futures. By tackling the issue of Taiwan, Mr. Obama could address much of what ails him today, sending a message of bold foreign policy thinking and fiscal responsibility that would benefit every citizen and be understood by every voter. Paul V. Kane, a former international security fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School, is a Marine who served in Iraq.
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23730
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說真的這提議不是很稀奇,畢竟把希望放在別的國家身上是愚蠢的(阿不就還好是川普當選?XD)
我懷疑是故意挑這時間解密出這個的,接下來美國要總統大選了
UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05787353 Date: 10/30/2015RELEASE IN FULL From: H <hrod17@clintonemail.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 6:46 PM To: 'sullivanjj@state.gov' Subject: Re: Interesting article I saw it and thought it was so clever. Let's discuss. Also, we only have 15 minutes left in here. Original Message --- From: Sullivan, Jacob J [mailto:SullivanJJ@state.gov] Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 06:19 PM . To: H Subject:
Interesting article For your reading pleasure while you endure open governance and try to steal glances at your blackberry: OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR To Save Our Economy, Ditch Taiwan By PAUL V. KANE Published: November 11, 2011 Washington WITH a single bold act, President Obama could correct the country's course, help assure his re-election, and preserve our children's future. He needs to redefine America's mindset about national security away from the old defense mentality that American power derives predominantly from our military might, rather than from the strength, agility and competitiveness of our economy.
He should make it clear that today American jobs and wealth matter more than military prowess. As Adm. Mike Mullen, then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, declared last year, "The most significant threat to our national security is our debt." There are dozens of initiatives President Obama could undertake to strengthen our economic security.
Here is one: He should enter into closed-door negotiations with Chinese leaders to write off the $1.14 trillion of American debt currently held by China in exchange for a deal to end American military assistance and arms sales to Taiwan and terminate the current United States-Taiwan defense arrangement by 2015. This would be a most precious prize to the cautious men in Beijing, one they would give dearly to achieve.
After all, our relationship with Taiwan, as revised in 1979, is a vestige of the cold war. Today, America has little strategic interest in Taiwan, which is gradually integrating with China economically by investing in and forming joint ventures with mainland Chinese firms. The island's absorption into mainland China is inevitable.
UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05787353 Date: 10/30/2015
But the status quo is dangerous; if Taiwanese nationalist politicians decided to declare independence or if Beijing's hawks tired of waiting for integration and moved to take Taiwan by force, America could suddenly be drawn into a multitrillion-dollar war. There will be "China hawks" who denounce any deal on Taiwan as American capitulation, but their fear of a Red China menacing Asia is anachronistic.
Portraying the United States as a democratic Athens threatened by China's autocratic Sparta makes for sensational imagery, but nothing could be further from reality. The battle today is between competing balance sheets, and it is fought in board rooms; it is not a geopolitical struggle to militarily or ideologically "dominate" the Pacific. In fact, China and the United States have interlocking economic interests.
China's greatest military asset is actually the United States Navy, which keeps the sea lanes safe for China's resources and products to flow freely. China would want a deal on Taiwan for several reasons. First, Taiwan is Beijing's unspoken but hard-to-hide top priority for symbolic and strategic reasons; only access to water and energy mean more to Chinese leaders. Second, a deal would open a clearer path for the gradual, orderly integration of Taiwan into China. Third, it would undermine hard-line militarists who use the Taiwan issue to stoke nationalist flames, sideline pro- Western technocrats and extract larger military budgets.
And finally, it would save China the considerable sums it has been spending on a vast military buildup. Jeffrey Lewis, an East Asia expert at the Monterey Institute of International Studies, estimated that one-fourth to one- third of China's defense spending goes to forces in the vicinity of Taiwan - at a cost of $30 billion to $50 billion a year. A deal for the resolution of Taiwan's status could save China $500 billion in defense spending by 2020 and allow Beijing to break even by 2030, while reducing America's debt and serving our broader economic interests.
The Chinese leadership would be startled - for a change - if the United States were to adopt such a savvy negotiating posture. Beyond reducing our debt, a Taiwan deal could pressure Beijing to end its political and economic support for pariah states like Iran, North Korea and Syria and to exert a moderating influence over an unstable Pakistan. It would be a game changer. The deal would eliminate almost 10 percent of our national debt without raising taxes or cutting spending; it would redirect American foreign policy away from dated cold-war-era entanglements and toward our contemporary economic and strategic interests; and it would eliminate the risk of involvement in a costly war with China.
Critics will call this proposal impractical, even absurd. They will say it doesn't have a prayer of passing Congress, and doesn't acknowledge political realities. They might be right - today. But by pursuing this agenda, Mr. Obama would change the calculus and political reality. And Congress should see a deal with China as an opportunity to make itself credible again.
Debt is not in itself bad, when managed, but today's unsustainable debt will suffocate our economy,,our democracy and our children's futures. By tackling the issue of Taiwan, Mr. Obama could address much of what ails him today, sending a message of bold foreign policy thinking and fiscal responsibility that would benefit every citizen and be understood by every voter. Paul V. Kane, a former international security fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School, is a Marine who served in Iraq.
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23730
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說真的這提議不是很稀奇,畢竟把希望放在別的國家身上是愚蠢的(阿不就還好是川普當選?XD)
我懷疑是故意挑這時間解密出這個的,接下來美國要總統大選了
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幸亏16年没让这老妖婆得逞,要不然怕是包子真的能够在自己第二个任期完成“武统台湾”大业了。回头一想真的好险。
张伯伦让希特勒吞并苏台德,以为希特勒也会做出让步,就此打住。
其实希应该是比较反G的。想出这些招,不过是为了政绩。民主选票制度下,让政治家更看重眼前利益,而非长远。推行一个政策,要20年后才有收益,当政者是不会冒前风险去推行的。因为任何新政见都意味着改变,所以抛出新想法,即是招来一堆的反对声音。而台湾和大陆的问题,说白了对美国来说,是长远的利益问题(这还是针对政党,政治家来说,对于美国老百姓99%可能连台湾在哪里都不知道,他们才没心思去关心一个与自己八杆子打不到关系的国际问题)。而免除债务是今天免,明天就可以拿来吹的事。政治家有业绩,人民可以立马享受到利益。这才是希想要做这个事的关键。
無非就是全文複製並轉發了紐時的一篇署名評論而已,何必一驚一乍好似代表了希拉蕊政策似的。
这邮件正文就是纽约时报的一篇评论员文章原封不动的粘贴过来的
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/11/opinion/to-save-our-economy-ditch-taiwan.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/11/opinion/to-save-our-economy-ditch-taiwan.html
希拉里只是恭维了一下发件人,螽国持有那万把亿美债,值不值得卖了台湾还两说。
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