波兰前总统瓦文萨及38名前波兰团结工会成员致信川普抗议其在白宫侮辱泽连斯基
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Dear Mr. President,
We look upon the relations [interactions] in your meeting with President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky with anger and distaste. We see your waiting for him to show respect and gratitude for material help given by USA in exchange for Ukraine fighting Russia as insulting. Gratitute is due to the heroic Ukrainian soldiers who spilt their blood in the cause of fighting for a free world. For over eleven years, they fell on the front in the name of these values and for the freedom of their fatherland, which was attacked by Putinite Russia. We don't understand how a leader of a nation which is the symbol of the free world is unable to see that.
Us being insulted brought back to us, that the atmosphere in the Oval Office at the time of this conversation reminded us of [the kind of discussions] that the SB [Soviet-era Polish secret police] held in interrogation rooms and Communist courts. Prosecutors and judges, on the orders of the Communist political police also explained to us, that they held all the cards and we held none. They demanded for us to stop our activities, arguing that thousands of innocent people are suffering due to us [the activities of the Solidarity opposition in the 70ies and 80ies]. They took away our freedom and citizens' rights, since we didn't agree to work with the authorities and we didn't show them gratitude. We are shocked that [Trump] treated Mr. President Vladimir Zelensky similarly.
The history of 20th century shows that every time when the USA wanted to show distance from democratic values and its European allies, it ended with a threat to [the USA] itself. Woodrow Wilson understood that; he decided to enter the USA into WW I in 1917. FDR also understood that, deciding after the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941 that the war in defense of the USA won't be only in the Pacific, but also in Europe [in support of] allies who were attacked by the Third Reich nations.
We remember that without Pres. Ronald Reagan and American financial involvement, the collapse of the USSR empire [wouldn't have happened]. Reagan had the understanding that in Soviet Russia and countries colonized by it, millions of enslaved people were suffering, among them thousands of political prisoners, which for their sacrifice in the defense of democratic values, paid with their freedom. His greatness comes from, among other things, that without wavering, he called the USSR the "Evil Empire" and he brought a forthright fight. We won, and a monument to Pres. Reagan stands in near the US Embassy in Warsaw today.
Mr. President, material help - military and financial - cannot be the equivalent of blood spilt in the name of freedom and independence of Ukraine, Europe, and the entire free world. Human life is priceless, and it cannot be measured financially. Gratitude is needed for those who sacrificed their blood and freedom. For us, the people of "Solidarity", former Communist political prisoners of the regime serving Soviet Russia, this is clear.
We appeal to the USA to hold itself to the guarantees, that they gave along with Great Britain in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, in which is written an obligation to defend the immovable borders of Ukraine, in exchange for [Ukraine] giving up its nuclear arms. Those guarantees are without conditions: they don't contain a single word about treating such help as an exchange for commercial benefits.
Lech Wałęsa followed by names of 38 other former Solidarity members and dissidents against the Communist Polish regime.
瓦文萨本人的脸书网页上也有同样内容：https://www.facebook.com/share/19uasQWJen/
Dear Mr. President,
We look upon the relations [interactions] in your meeting with President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky with anger and distaste. We see your waiting for him to show respect and gratitude for material help given by USA in exchange for Ukraine fighting Russia as insulting. Gratitute is due to the heroic Ukrainian soldiers who spilt their blood in the cause of fighting for a free world. For over eleven years, they fell on the front in the name of these values and for the freedom of their fatherland, which was attacked by Putinite Russia. We don't understand how a leader of a nation which is the symbol of the free world is unable to see that.
Us being insulted brought back to us, that the atmosphere in the Oval Office at the time of this conversation reminded us of [the kind of discussions] that the SB [Soviet-era Polish secret police] held in interrogation rooms and Communist courts. Prosecutors and judges, on the orders of the Communist political police also explained to us, that they held all the cards and we held none. They demanded for us to stop our activities, arguing that thousands of innocent people are suffering due to us [the activities of the Solidarity opposition in the 70ies and 80ies]. They took away our freedom and citizens' rights, since we didn't agree to work with the authorities and we didn't show them gratitude. We are shocked that [Trump] treated Mr. President Vladimir Zelensky similarly.
The history of 20th century shows that every time when the USA wanted to show distance from democratic values and its European allies, it ended with a threat to [the USA] itself. Woodrow Wilson understood that; he decided to enter the USA into WW I in 1917. FDR also understood that, deciding after the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941 that the war in defense of the USA won't be only in the Pacific, but also in Europe [in support of] allies who were attacked by the Third Reich nations.
We remember that without Pres. Ronald Reagan and American financial involvement, the collapse of the USSR empire [wouldn't have happened]. Reagan had the understanding that in Soviet Russia and countries colonized by it, millions of enslaved people were suffering, among them thousands of political prisoners, which for their sacrifice in the defense of democratic values, paid with their freedom. His greatness comes from, among other things, that without wavering, he called the USSR the "Evil Empire" and he brought a forthright fight. We won, and a monument to Pres. Reagan stands in near the US Embassy in Warsaw today.
Mr. President, material help - military and financial - cannot be the equivalent of blood spilt in the name of freedom and independence of Ukraine, Europe, and the entire free world. Human life is priceless, and it cannot be measured financially. Gratitude is needed for those who sacrificed their blood and freedom. For us, the people of "Solidarity", former Communist political prisoners of the regime serving Soviet Russia, this is clear.
We appeal to the USA to hold itself to the guarantees, that they gave along with Great Britain in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, in which is written an obligation to defend the immovable borders of Ukraine, in exchange for [Ukraine] giving up its nuclear arms. Those guarantees are without conditions: they don't contain a single word about treating such help as an exchange for commercial benefits.
Lech Wałęsa followed by names of 38 other former Solidarity members and dissidents against the Communist Polish regime.
瓦文萨本人的脸书网页上也有同样内容：https://www.facebook.com/share/19uasQWJen/
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>> 5年时间很长吗？在波兰共产党统治下几乎是全民总代表的团结工会 不出几届政府选举就变成了彻彻底底...
你这段话完全是自我狡辩：
“5年时间很长吗？
在波兰共产党统治下几乎是全民总代表的团结工会 不出几届政府选举就变成了彻彻底底的在野党
如果这都不算波兰人马上抛弃了团结工会 那什么叫做抛弃？
我寻思我说的不冲突呀 很快抛弃了团结工会 = 几届选举后就从全民代表变成了在野党”
波兰人在波共倒台后选举团结工会主席瓦文萨为第一任民选总统，怎能按你说的 “波兰共产政府当局垮了不久 选民马上就把团结工会当夜壶踢掉了”？！
你现在又把你前面胡扯的“选民马上就把团结工会当夜壶踢掉了” 改成 “团结工会 不出几届政府选举就变成了彻彻底底的在野党”。但这完全与你胡扯的 “波兰人马上抛弃了团结工会” 搭不上边啊！团结工会后来在选举中失去政权，根本不能与你 “ 波兰共产政府当局垮了不久选民马上就把团结工会当夜壶踢掉了” 相提并论。
你还在这里狡辩什么 “5年时间” 云云：无论瓦文萨以团结工会主席身份当选总统后执政几年，也不能说明你胡扯的 “选民马上就把团结工会当夜壶踢掉了” 不荒谬。
看来你与川普咒骂泽伦斯基一样喜欢咒骂抗击共产党独裁的欧洲抗共政治家。所以我说让你有品葱管理员权力，置反共网站品葱于危险境地。