就最近的川普相關話題的一個建議
近來川普的一些言論,尤其是對烏克蘭的言論,讓品蔥用戶陷入了内鬥,用戶之間的對綫已經有點當初習下李上的那種烈度了。
個人認爲這些過度的對綫行爲,是會影響品蔥的凝聚力的。
就像葱油李瑞環的帖子說他要暫時退葱清净一下,然後就有葱油發表了有些不友善的評論,大意是説如果這個暫時有期限他希望是永遠。
爲了自證一下清白,我不是在拉偏架,我是不太喜歡葱油李瑞環的,具體什麽原由我有點忘了但是他喜提了我的屏蔽清單。我可是不怎麽用屏蔽清單的人。然後之所以我屏蔽了他還能看到他的帖子是因爲我不是隨時都登錄的。
話題轉回來,個人覺得這樣下去勢必會流失一些優質的用戶或者還會留下一些未知的後遺症,所以我認爲現在需要或者在管理員覺得需要時進行介入。
具體的建議如下,先後順序代表我個人覺得比較妥善的做法的順序。1最佳2其次這種感覺。
1.建立一個或者幾個川普就俄烏戰爭的對綫樓,但是數量不宜過多,可以考慮就放在普通的時政區,或者是置頂。他們願意高强度對綫就對綫,但是不能在其他地方對綫。
2.讓他們善用對綫區,這個也是非常符合規則的做法,但是對綫的人不是理智狀態,個人覺得不太妥當,與其管不如疏。
3.可以考慮把相關帖子轉入歐美時政區,這是利用現有規則的做法,但是相關話題的討論度畢竟是真的很高,放進去有可能不妥。
個人認爲這些過度的對綫行爲,是會影響品蔥的凝聚力的。
就像葱油李瑞環的帖子說他要暫時退葱清净一下,然後就有葱油發表了有些不友善的評論,大意是説如果這個暫時有期限他希望是永遠。
爲了自證一下清白,我不是在拉偏架,我是不太喜歡葱油李瑞環的,具體什麽原由我有點忘了但是他喜提了我的屏蔽清單。我可是不怎麽用屏蔽清單的人。然後之所以我屏蔽了他還能看到他的帖子是因爲我不是隨時都登錄的。
話題轉回來,個人覺得這樣下去勢必會流失一些優質的用戶或者還會留下一些未知的後遺症,所以我認爲現在需要或者在管理員覺得需要時進行介入。
具體的建議如下,先後順序代表我個人覺得比較妥善的做法的順序。1最佳2其次這種感覺。
1.建立一個或者幾個川普就俄烏戰爭的對綫樓,但是數量不宜過多,可以考慮就放在普通的時政區,或者是置頂。他們願意高强度對綫就對綫,但是不能在其他地方對綫。
2.讓他們善用對綫區,這個也是非常符合規則的做法,但是對綫的人不是理智狀態,個人覺得不太妥當,與其管不如疏。
3.可以考慮把相關帖子轉入歐美時政區,這是利用現有規則的做法,但是相關話題的討論度畢竟是真的很高,放進去有可能不妥。
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剛發完就看到川普改口的消息。。。emmmm
我覺得有可能不需要這個建議了,不過以後發生類似的事情也許可以參考一下?
我覺得有可能不需要這個建議了,不過以後發生類似的事情也許可以參考一下?
转欧美完了
频繁发布这种 XXX又说了XXX之类的消息的人给标记
多次直接灰单
频繁发布这种 XXX又说了XXX之类的消息的人给标记
多次直接灰单
看多了浪費時間,
因為政策沒有連貫性,總是更改
因為政策沒有連貫性,總是更改
要看多少是合適的,我覺得,
可以屏蔽所有Trump有關的新聞,然後只看BBC,SkyNews和半島電視台(再去掉中東的新聞)就夠了
可以屏蔽所有Trump有關的新聞,然後只看BBC,SkyNews和半島電視台(再去掉中東的新聞)就夠了
>> 要看多少是合適的,我覺得,可以屏蔽所有Trump有關的新聞,然後只看BBC,SkyNews和半...
The news agencies I mainly read from: RFI, Rzeczpospolita, the Jerusalem Post, Bloomberg, Radio Liberty and Radio Free Asia(for human rights news update), Mainichi Shimbun(only Japanese version)
>> The news agencies I mainly read from: RFI, Rzec...
big media not always reliable
like this one
https://pincong.rocks/article/id-82268
you have to think for the message it's trying to send
which to decide what post is able to stay in the forum is very costly
>> big media not always reliablelike this onehttps...
Indeed, the Financial Times, one of important backing sources of the article often exposes "behind the scene" moments and makes profit out of them, by requiring a paid subscription to get access to such content. Some of them have been proven reliable, but I personally don't quite trust these insider disclosures, God knows how they got the news? Although I won't say they're false neither.
Considering the fact that many people, especially from the financial sector, do give the benefit of the doubt to the premium articles on those platforms, I think the question concerning you is in a grey area, but we can give posts like that a pass unless they go against common sense or existing facts.
不要想什麼都管
品蔥不讓討論熱度高的時事,那不是流失更快?
世界時事都是有聯繫的,大家都愛看熱點高的事情
那麼是不是開一個專區,給不想討論跟美國相關時事的人呢?
然後這個好像當天就用小號又發言了,你不用太操心
"就像葱油李瑞環的帖子說他要暫時退葱清净一下,然後就有葱油發表了有些不友善的評論,大意是説如果這個暫時有期限他希望是永遠。"
品蔥不讓討論熱度高的時事,那不是流失更快?
世界時事都是有聯繫的,大家都愛看熱點高的事情
那麼是不是開一個專區,給不想討論跟美國相關時事的人呢?
然後這個好像當天就用小號又發言了,你不用太操心
"就像葱油李瑞環的帖子說他要暫時退葱清净一下,然後就有葱油發表了有些不友善的評論,大意是説如果這個暫時有期限他希望是永遠。"
>> 不要想什麼都管品蔥不讓討論熱度高的時事,那不是流失更快?世界時事都是有聯繫的,大家都愛看熱點高...
得维持一下帖子质量
要不然以下几种情况
你葱变成了maga党与反maga互喷的场地
充斥着信息标题过分夸张 但是只是分析的主观臆想
那差不多又变成了20大的那个情况了
>> The news agencies I mainly read from: RFI, Rzec...
I think our choices on news outlets have the same fundamental principles but the difference lays on, how much time do you turn on TV, or if you have a TV 😏😏
younger people are far less likely to use TV, changing the preferences quite a bit on the media usage 😏😏😏 (unlike those Dnipropetrovsk people using TV and wooden furniture too much as a habit)
>> big media not always reliablelike this onehttps...
Generally I don't trust big media or big companies. I am even as far as putting Amazon, GM, Ford in my forbidden list for purchases/services. And I rarely watch MSNBC, Fox News for the same reason. All of them is a waste of time. The only US media I use a lot is AP (which ironically Trumps hates quite a bit)
Generally the news post I quote is timely and high quality, but it cannot prevent others from quoting crappy news outlets again and again burying useful information underneath
>> Indeed, the Financial Times, one of important b...
That's the dilemma of the press. Behind the scene sources are very often highly useful but they have to protect the source. But by protecting the source, this ambiguity makes room for the false information to spread.
And even if the sources are true, plans can change all the time. And it leaves another room for the false information to spread. There is no solution to this.
The most complex situation is when such news going against common sense or existing facts turning to be true at a later time due to the confidentiality or when the public connecting the wrong dots. And that's why I am always cautious approaching to this, wondering if I have overlooked something? But you know the verifying process can be slow and costly, sometimes outright impossible
That's why I still read RT occasionally to see if I might have missed anything
>> 得维持一下帖子质量要不然以下几种情况你葱变成了maga党与反maga互喷的场地充斥着信息标题过...
我不曉得是故意的還是不故意的,
但是按照老契卡,KGB的知識體系,造成對立和混亂(maga党与反maga互喷)就是達到了objective, 然後趁機行動。這是俄國內戰的老把戲了,真是不曉得為什麼人類如此愚蠢都過了一個多世紀還是沒有什麼長進
>> Generally I don't trust big media or big compan...
as I mentioned, doing fact check is very costly, cuz I have to read the original source
>> 我不曉得是故意的還是不故意的,但是按照老契卡,KGB的知識體系,造成對立和混亂()就是達到了o...
also, if your friend isn’t banned, I am very sure he will also ask me to be excused from moderating this post, like very so called evidence he had on me
https://pincong.rocks/article/item_id-1393399
so I will let you do the honor of handing this post
i have did the fact check, which saved your the work
>> I think our choices on news outlets have the sa...
generally I read news online but turn on TV for funny shows, sometimes I spend a whole afternoon watching cartoon.
>> generally I read news online but turn on TV for...
that's quite a younger generation approach to acquire news online but not from the TV.
And cartoons?
happy friends, grass and flowers!
>> also, if your friend isn’t banned, I am very su...
well, certainly he isn't my friend. Maybe I am more lenient generally, but that doesn't make me a friend of his.
I am tired of such posts and I rarely, if ever replied to one of those lately... let's hope they don't occupy the entire first page.
>> well, certainly he isn't my friend. Maybe I am ...
anyway, whats done is done
https://pincong.rocks/user/admin_log/uid-91072
if you actually looked at logs, i wont let him get off this eazy,
not the first time, and always the next time
just let you know a bit of what i had been through
>> anyway, whats done is donehttps://pincong.rocks...
who is this user again? I don't remember seeing this user before (likely I forgot) but the pattern of behaviours feels familiar
I think some users spend way too much time and this type of concentrated posting might get a bit too messy at certain situations.