=====搏击俱乐部=====（情绪发泄专楼）
政治环境残酷，来品葱的朋友们难免有情绪。在讨论时，本来想心平气和地说事，却控制不了自己，非要钻进牛角尖争个高下。
这是人之常情。
因此，搏击俱乐部开张。
简单来说，就是个情绪发泄专楼，本楼允许一切政治不正确、脏话、扣帽子、人身攻击等不文明、无逻辑言论。
搏击俱乐部规矩有三：
1. 仅限文字，不发图片；
2. 不主动寻衅，本楼是用来发泄情绪，不是用来制造更多情绪的（发泄时请勿at、回复他人）；
3. 不可因本楼内言论在其他地方争吵、报复。出了本楼，一切放下。What happens in the club, stays in the club.
搏击俱乐部潜规则：
不使用踩赞功能。如果你特别想踩赞，可以踩赞之后再取消，在投票纪录中留下自己的痕迹。
欢迎愤怒的人。
欢迎痛苦的人。
欢迎悲伤的人。
欢迎无聊的人。
不欢迎恶意的人。老板认识很多白道大佬，【警黑合作】可不是说着玩的。
时间倒序爱好者可走后门：https://pincong.rocks/article/id-5850__sort-DESC
这是人之常情。
因此，搏击俱乐部开张。
简单来说，就是个情绪发泄专楼，本楼允许一切政治不正确、脏话、扣帽子、人身攻击等不文明、无逻辑言论。
搏击俱乐部规矩有三：
1. 仅限文字，不发图片；
2. 不主动寻衅，本楼是用来发泄情绪，不是用来制造更多情绪的（发泄时请勿at、回复他人）；
3. 不可因本楼内言论在其他地方争吵、报复。出了本楼，一切放下。What happens in the club, stays in the club.
搏击俱乐部潜规则：
不使用踩赞功能。如果你特别想踩赞，可以踩赞之后再取消，在投票纪录中留下自己的痕迹。
欢迎愤怒的人。
欢迎痛苦的人。
欢迎悲伤的人。
欢迎无聊的人。
不欢迎恶意的人。老板认识很多白道大佬，【警黑合作】可不是说着玩的。
时间倒序爱好者可走后门：https://pincong.rocks/article/id-5850__sort-DESC
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>>我不太可能现在买台电脑，电脑也找不到资源现在我希望可以用钱换几年时间，在报班的情况下一年学会英语.....
報班學英語想多了。
中國大陸英語教學水平不堪入目，我的英語水平可以直接拿來當老師的.... 那群人不太行。
但是如果沒電腦，限制要多不少。
我自己是從小看這些節目（當然了，不是這個，是別的類似節目），自然無縫銜接，
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Psi8Whx8sM
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>>I was in Poland two days ago, and the next is to g...
🤣🤣🤣
Spiritually Russia, perhaps.
Hail, Pennsylvania!
>>那麼實施PUA也要有基礎的，起碼的執行能力，有些人混亂一團，到最後效果可能是意外和巧合，怎麼回事誰也...
I was in Poland two days ago, and the next is to go to Canada, maybe Quebec specifically. So Mr S, I remember you live in a cold place, that must be Russia, right?🤔
“PUA曾经只是培养男性提升自信和搭讪技巧的方式。但现在的PUA已经变成了通过人设造假、伪装、欺骗、陷害、威胁自杀等方式，掌控并玩弄他人感情的一套技术。行骗者不仅谋求快速绑定关系，还试图获取财物、同情、忠诚、责任，甚至引诱对方感到无力、无能、负疚、直至自我怀疑或自杀。”
>>Thanks for reconsidering. You meant well, but book...
I guess that's where the fundamental clash is between the different cultures, the British/American approach and those methods derived from the Soviet Union, and I don't think a compromise is possible given his situation/environment. I rarely get along with those sticking to the Soviet principles in terms of education or psychology.
I forgot about the image. Sorry about my forgetfulness... (it is so bad it qualifies me as having disability and it involves a few cases of litigation so far)
>>BTW, I saw the malicious incident earlier today. I...
I agree. well, I don't think he tends to consider the threads as careful as we hope, on the other hand.....
>>that part of the disconnection is real: I was read...
BTW, I saw the malicious incident earlier today. It was bad. Yet it was within the bounds and designated function of the Fight Club. I replied to you a few days ago that a designated chat thread might be better for the user to acquire educational and emotional assistance——a chat thread in the 水區 under the protection of Pincong customary laws as normal. Maybe this one would be a better place to do it? https://pincong.rocks/article/72979
>>that part of the disconnection is real: I was read...
Thanks for reconsidering. You meant well, but books like those could backfire, for A) they aren't SMART-adaptable, which means the user can read them all day without acquiring anything practical to improve their life or health, and more importantly B) they aren't adaptable to Chinese parenting. If the user needs an immediate crisis funding to extend their education, while doing so involves getting their parents to see that they are on the right track, books like those would be counterproductive. That's how Chinese parents are. Those books are deemed disconnected from standardized education. They would be considered as leisure, not study, unfortunately.
Yeah, I was speaking of the image in your book link post. Would you mind removing it after a while? You know, the no-image-policy is one of those things that makes Fight Club the way it is. An image allowed will only attract more images, and soon it will become another reservoir of images here. Text-only please.
>>Consider the user has barely any of these self-man...
that part of the disconnection is real: I was reading that set of book (albeit quite an older version) when I was 10 years younger than him now. And there is only so much of a fluid intelligence left after a certain age.
I really don't know what to do in that scenario, because I never face it myself: I had two usable languages, strength in few fields for the knowledge and somewhat enough surviving instinct around that age, despite having really really bad grades. (almost as bad as him frankly. a bit better, maybe, but not by much)
Yet I tend to have the habit of dipping into the luxuries, not the basics... different environment, maybe, or different mindset.
The image?
>>我看了下，大概是這些， http://www.dkchina.com/per/class_shows...
Consider the user has barely any of these self-management measures to carry out a study plan:
Specific
Measurable
Attainable
Relevant
Time-bound
an explorer encyclopedia set would not be productive, which can even be counterproductive consider the user's family and financial background. I highly recommend that you reconsider before giving such specific recommendations when a user is so mentally dependent on you. Remember, the user is about to reach the point of becoming a young adult without a trade, a usable language, and a mentality that is unemployable, Self-teaching with a set of encyclopedia is a luxury, not a rescue. I hope you can see that even as a foreigner.
Also, the image. do you mind?
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>>给个中文名？这样才好在淘宝拼多多这类平台买
我看了下，大概是這些，
http://www.dkchina.com/per/class_shows.asp?id=001001&class=l8_1&page=3
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>>要英语吗？说真的我语文全班倒数第一，很难理解复杂的文字，就更不要说学习外语了，我需要的是基本的语言能...
這套圖書本來是英語的，但是也有中文翻譯的。
我看的那一套太老了，現在有新的，翻譯的版本。
但是你需要學習的是知識體系，知道哪些方面等等
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>>叹，说到底这些像十万个为什么的东西给我的意义不大，打个比方吧，给一个小学生看某物品说明书来识字，这样...
這個知識體系也要跟得上。
十萬個為什麼，我覺得水平很不行。
我的知識體系（5歲以後）是來自於See & Explore Library DK出版的圖書。
我覺得你也可以看一下這些板塊，然後在各種紀錄片上學習一下
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>>是啊，可是我很想受教育，不想做个无知的人，就比如说我现在最基本的语言水平只有小学水平，其他方面估计更...
我其實想說，
多看維基文庫和維基百科比在淪陷區上九年義務教育要好多了。
如果有和你同齡的小孩子一起去看就好了，但是按照現在的情況，這怕不是個奢望，那還是你自己一個人看吧
>>有這種好奇要小心碰到有提供這類網址的根據公告 https://pincong.rocks/artic...
現在好了，互聯網釣魚跟20年前，30年前差不多，
審查倒是惡化的一塌糊塗。真是糟糕啊！
有些網站還好，有些網站直接惡意記錄用戶訪問信息（IP，系統，瀏覽器等等）
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>>九年毕业叫我去北上？墙内的读书改变命运论我自己都相信，而且估计不会再有受教育的机会了，我一直都想做您...
牆內讀書改變命運就是CCP畫的大餅，
你不能到這個時候還意識不到啊。（你看看各種不適985 211不要，等等），現在在強國上學，我覺得意義不大。
我也不曉得能幹什麼。
做高素質的，需要自我培養啊，很多免費文庫需要使用，但是英語真的是很重要的工具
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>>好的，那么英文论坛，只要我去其他论坛发展，你们的问题不就解决了？
我只能说至少我本人并不认为你是个问题，你和我都一样都只是这个论坛的一个用户，这一点上我们是一样的，你的选择权终究在你自己手上，我只能说这个论坛里也有对你抱有善意的用户
>>关于这点恕我没有能力帮助你，我对这些也不了解，而那些体量大的知名平台或多或少都有中共的影响，这点相信...
哎，現在別說中文的了，
英語平台抨擊CCP受到的審查都堪比15年前牆內平台了，這個世界真是荒誕（2009年那個時候，隨便罵，覺得天滅CCP才是共識)
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>>那么可以指引一些墙外中文论坛或者自由交流的平台吗？
有這種好奇要小心
碰到有提供這類網址的
根據公告 https://pincong.rocks/article/16674
以及其它公告裏沒有列舉的不可説之網站
請直接按禁釣魚令投訴舉報
就算是在搏擊俱樂部裏
傳播釣魚網站也是要被封禁的
有先例
>>叹，我可以学英语，我只希望可以去自由私信的论坛，最好是自由发表自杀的论坛，英文论坛应该可以私信吧
首先你這個自殺目標就是比較荒誕的。我理解你自殺是因為覺得生活窒息。
但是世界很大，這樣太限制自己了。
英語論壇也要看情況，Reddit按照目前情況還不如品蔥呢。
>>意义？我看看我能饿几天不被父母强制喂食？
你不能通過自我傷害的方式來換取注意力。
你這麼做的前提是，覺得父母依然對你有基本情感和義務。
但是很多父母是沒有這種積極情感的。我就見過繼父把兒子當成取款機的（叫他去賣屁股給房租），還有繼父直接和年幼的女兒性行為的等等等等，
你應該自己對自己好，而不是期待別人對你好，哪怕是父母。
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>>那么可以指引一些墙外中文论坛或者自由交流的平台吗？
哪裡還有？！
https://h.pincong.rocks/2290977
你別說中文的了，你就算不限制語言，也不好找。現在的互聯網不是二十年前了，二十年前你可以在貼吧上直接討論跑坦克，如何跑贏坦克，坦克有多少等等。那個時候的互聯網真是沒什麼審查
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>>匿名网站就会有这样的问题，毫无限制的恶意，这个问题太难控制了
這種我都覺得是噪音了。
還有別的問題更大（洩露信息等等），honey trap這些的，不好弄啊。
但是這個網站不匿名更是致命的，你也曉得為什麼。
本站有些外國干涉勢力看看就好，這些人沒問題，但是在PRC裡的不太行。
>>我不想读完九年书就出社会，而且是不会给我活路的，这里的管理员巴不得我死
你好，我注意过你的发言，也参与过其他人关于你的讨论，因为我并没有相关专业资质，不清楚贸然和你互动是否会对你造成不良影响，所以一直几乎没有和你互动过，但是不代表我本人对你不关心。
这里应该没有哪个管理员是对你充满恶意的，如果存在这种情况请投诉该当事人，相信经过大家的判断会公平处理的。
我只想说没有谁的生命是没有价值的，你的生命同样有价值，即使你的生活不太顺利，我们也都看到了你对人生的努力与抗争。希望你可以不要太在意那些对你恶语相向的账号与小号，他们只是通过谩骂和打压遭遇不幸的人来获得快感，这样的人不值得关注。相反，还有像@Studebaker史刁碧嘉 这样素不相识的对你抱有善意的人。
祝你可以渡过难关
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>>是這樣啊，這沒有管理員巴不得你死，但是有管理員想封你的號。但是我看到還有人註冊帳號專門跑來罵你，這就...
“What happens in the club, stays in the club.” is what mean? Is you his daddy? Oh daddy I so piapia!笑死喔🤣🤣🤣
>>所以我这种人是不受欢迎的，只能像过街老鼠一样死去，现在为了读书又开始绝食了，叹，等死吧
自知之明挺难得啊，那个管理员专门为你封我的号，看见了吗，小屁孩？你要继续胡说八道拖他下水吗？现在他要避嫌了，还有谁会保你？你叫他站出来吧！管理员巴不得你死，干嘛封我号？
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>>我过个一两周就尝试下自缢吧，我的人生不可能有起色的，连保持现状都很难，真的够了，已经够了
这个社会男人比女人容易多了，你要是个女的，担心没法读书外出打工遇到骚扰或危险，担心没有学历未来只能草草嫁人相夫教子，那我还能理解，但你一个男的，你即使没学历，你也能轻易找到能维持温饱的工作，只不过会辛苦一些而已，你要是有点心气，你可以在打工间歇自学知识，然后报考成人高考
>>我过个一两周就尝试下自缢吧，我的人生不可能有起色的，连保持现状都很难，真的够了，已经够了
你什么都不做光在这怨天尤人自然不可能有起色，书读不成也可以去学门技术，可以去打工，可以买台电脑网上搬砖赚钱，你天天搁这复读有个屁用
>>Now I've checked it out, and learned much. Thank y...
Alas, I guess we are both blessed for not being born a decade late.
Otherwise, we would be discussing about our insanity and how to prevent our suicide
this would easily have been us.
>>I saw them too. They reminded me of Chinese parent...
this version doesn't have CC (the one with CC was somehow deleted from YouTube)
but you have an idea. graphic enough
Yes, THAT teacher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q-VRXMUI_g&t=1079s
>>Now I've checked it out, and learned much. Thank y...
Thank you. I'm humbled. BTW, did you get chance to check out the discussion about this under the "House of Cards" thread? Someone shared the NIH Guidelines to Discuss Suicide on Social Media there. Good stuff.
>>Regardless, even with your wisdom and prudence, I ...
Now I've checked it out, and learned much. Thank you for providing this guideline.
I think this young boy has lost his sanity, and can't think calmly in fact according to our dialog outside the forum. Thus I'll choose to deal with such case more cautiously and apply the methods said in the guideline.
>>I saw those comments. those are unnecessarily hars...
I saw them too. They reminded me of Chinese parenting and secondary school head teacher (班主任) speaking.
>>Are you referring to this: https://pincong.rocks/a...
I will read your replies here when I'm free, thank you for letting me know.
>>I believe he has deeper mental issues that are als...
I saw those comments. those are unnecessarily harsh.
I believe he has big problems in his academic achievement. Basically, he learned nothing anywhere. But it is only one problem out of how many I don't know.
anywhere you ask, he has a problem. I guess he doesn't need hook after all.
and I don't see solution anywhere
>>of course I cannot disclose details.... it was the...
I believe he has deeper mental issues that are also not disclosed publicly, his study stress may just be a hook to attract forum's attention to his potential real problems. But even then can they really be solved?
I dislike how harsh "anonymous user" was on him in this regards. https://pincong.rocks/article/64021
>>What's in the package? How did the receiver not ma...
of course I cannot disclose details....
it was the learning materials necessary for him, and things like Baklava.
but the receiving end is too utterly unknowledgeable to get any point
>>Nederland just gave him rather generous support, i...
What's in the package? How did the receiver not make good use of it?
Or is it rather inconvenient to disclose these things in public...
>>Can you tell me what he has done? ⊙▽⊙
Nederland just gave him rather generous support,
in package.
but the receiving end didn't utilize it too well
>>https://pincong.rocks/people/%E6%8C%91%E6%8B%A8%E5...
what's going on? I don't understand
https://pincong.rocks/people/%E6%8C%91%E6%8B%A8%E5%85%B1%E4%BA%A7%E5%9B%BD%E5%AE%B6%E5%85%B3%E7%B3%BB
WTF happened?
WTF happened?
>>Are you referring to this: https://pincong.rocks/a...
it is merely a fraction.
I think Nederland has done all he can, even more.... (outside this forum)
Nederland sent him a lot of textbook even with Lokum, but I fear it doesn't resonate as well, as always (limited by his own skill. the kid tends to be bad at many things)
>>while he is somewhat disappointed at Nederland, and I think it is not justified...
Are you referring to this:
https://pincong.rocks/article/item_id-1260249#
or this:
https://pincong.rocks/article/item_id-1258525#
or something more personal that I don't want to know?
Nevertheless, I have seen nothing but utmost care and fairness from @Nederland concerning the user of interest. All I can hope is the same level of integrity and judgment concerning this user should further reports occur.
>>Then good luck, my friend. Again, you have a noble...
Thank you. It is not the first difficult situation I have, and I have many other worse cases I don't enjoy.
Of course it is not a good situation. All we can do is hope. (but I was somewhat the same many years ago myself, a bit differently)
And I am aware of that. I just hope this gives him assurance that he will not be abandoned by me (while he is somewhat disappointed at Nederland, and I think it is not justified), reducing the chance of suicide attempt. But you know there is only very little I can do. I hope this is enough kindness and companionship to last long enough for him to figure things out later.
Putting this amount of leverage purely virtually is utterly irresponsible, but younger kids behave kind of differently. I really don't understand anymore.
