如何看待E-hentai將於2020年底關站?
Tenboro的留言
As some of you already know, I have been considering retirement from this site for some time due to a persistent tendon injury that makes it impossible to spend any extended time in front of a computer. This is why the last Galleries update took over a year to complete, and why there's been no other updates to the rest of the site for almost two years. Still, the site has been operating normally even though I've only been able to put in the bare minimum work to keep it running, mostly thanks to the staff and the community in general.
Unfortunately, recent legislative changes in the Netherlands, confirmed by our host, has made it impossible to keep the status quo going. While it may have been possible to move the necessary servers to some other country with more lenient laws, at this point in time it's probably a game of whack-a-mole, so even if I wanted to attempt it, the aforementioned tendon injury makes it impossible for me to play that game.
As such, certain changes have already been made, as you are all already aware of.
EH itself will continue operating at least until the end of 2020 unless anything unexpected happens, and possibly indefinitely beyond that. While I'm not really that interested in running a neutered site on a personal level, and considering the tendon injury and inevitable rioting that will take place, it is not unlikely that no more development will take place and that I will retire at that point - however, I do recognize the importance of this site, so the ultimate outcome here has not been settled, and will depend on a number of factors.
In the event that I retire, it has not yet been decided whether the existing staff will attempt to have a full successor established or whether it will be left to the existing mirror sites, but regardless of the outcome, I would arrange to have some sort of permanent archive hosted indefinitely.
Note that this is not as easy as "just make a torrent available", as the source image files alone weigh in at over 50 TB.
As some of you already know, I have been considering retirement from this site for some time due to a persistent tendon injury that makes it impossible to spend any extended time in front of a computer. This is why the last Galleries update took over a year to complete, and why there's been no other updates to the rest of the site for almost two years. Still, the site has been operating normally even though I've only been able to put in the bare minimum work to keep it running, mostly thanks to the staff and the community in general.
Unfortunately, recent legislative changes in the Netherlands, confirmed by our host, has made it impossible to keep the status quo going. While it may have been possible to move the necessary servers to some other country with more lenient laws, at this point in time it's probably a game of whack-a-mole, so even if I wanted to attempt it, the aforementioned tendon injury makes it impossible for me to play that game.
As such, certain changes have already been made, as you are all already aware of.
EH itself will continue operating at least until the end of 2020 unless anything unexpected happens, and possibly indefinitely beyond that. While I'm not really that interested in running a neutered site on a personal level, and considering the tendon injury and inevitable rioting that will take place, it is not unlikely that no more development will take place and that I will retire at that point - however, I do recognize the importance of this site, so the ultimate outcome here has not been settled, and will depend on a number of factors.
In the event that I retire, it has not yet been decided whether the existing staff will attempt to have a full successor established or whether it will be left to the existing mirror sites, but regardless of the outcome, I would arrange to have some sort of permanent archive hosted indefinitely.
Note that this is not as easy as "just make a torrent available", as the source image files alone weigh in at over 50 TB.
關了就關了。
太多人站在E站用戶的立場,以至於這次關站絕大多數人都是在崩潰哀嚎甚至有些魔征人當作京都火災那樣來祈福,忘了這是個盜版網站。
我也不是在幫SJW說話,只是站在創作者的立場來看,這玩意關了是好事。
太多人站在E站用戶的立場,以至於這次關站絕大多數人都是在崩潰哀嚎甚至有些魔征人當作京都火災那樣來祈福,忘了這是個盜版網站。
我也不是在幫SJW說話,只是站在創作者的立場來看,這玩意關了是好事。
对于我这个e站上的英肉汉化妹系本基本上看得个精光的人来讲已经满足了,关不关站我有什么笋丝?还有大把地方可以找资源
对网站关闭不做评价,这种灰色地带的网站本来就该抱着看一天是一天的心态。但是墙国一群黄皮右如丧考妣,大骂欧美白左多管闲事自己要把手伸到东亚来我就感觉很爆笑了,要不让他们自己在墙国架设一个服务器接手这个“人类文明的图书馆”呗
https://twitter.com/fuckmaou/status/1155059462706585600
Nhentai管理員辟謡
Nhentai管理員辟謡
這消息一出,不少白嫖廢物如喪考妣,甚至還有人提出要捐錢幫助exhentai渡過難關。
我都笑死,有的人口口聲聲說什麽看不到喜歡的作者的作品了很遺憾,你們他媽有錢投盜版網站沒錢支持原作者哦?
甚至還有白癡說什麽exhentai關站=21世紀亞歷山大圖書館着火,真的是腦子裏面全是精液?説得出來這話?
我都笑死,有的人口口聲聲說什麽看不到喜歡的作者的作品了很遺憾,你們他媽有錢投盜版網站沒錢支持原作者哦?
甚至還有白癡說什麽exhentai關站=21世紀亞歷山大圖書館着火,真的是腦子裏面全是精液?説得出來這話?
其实这对于中文论坛来说损失还是比较小的,基本上汉化本都能在eh以外的地方找到一样的,损失最大的还是许多小语种国家的翻译者们,不少eh上没有了以后真的就失传了,这次打击不亚于京都动画失火事件给我带来的,允悲。
最后我想说下不单单是白嫖怪收到损失,像我最近在写篇关于一位曾经下海,现在已经上岸的画师15年以来画风的变化的文章,十几年前的那些他们还未出名的时候画的作品本来保有量就极少,可以说没有eh我很难快速找到多年以前的作品,而这些作品对于任何一个想去科普acg行业发展历程的文章来说又是必不可少的,成人作品一直是acg行业发展中不可或缺的一部分(所幸的是这次所用到的作品在关站之前我就已经备份了,令人感到悲痛的是以后我再想写这种文章恐怕找资源就要占掉很大一部分时间,文章数量肯定要下降不少)
最后我想说下不单单是白嫖怪收到损失,像我最近在写篇关于一位曾经下海,现在已经上岸的画师15年以来画风的变化的文章,十几年前的那些他们还未出名的时候画的作品本来保有量就极少,可以说没有eh我很难快速找到多年以前的作品,而这些作品对于任何一个想去科普acg行业发展历程的文章来说又是必不可少的,成人作品一直是acg行业发展中不可或缺的一部分(所幸的是这次所用到的作品在关站之前我就已经备份了,令人感到悲痛的是以后我再想写这种文章恐怕找资源就要占掉很大一部分时间,文章数量肯定要下降不少)
補充幾點資訊:
-E-Hentai也有無法瀏覽的本/圖類型,必須訪問裡站的ExHentai才有
瀏覽的渠道(例:蘿莉、正太、近親交配),而ExHentai已於7/26關閉
-已向站方申訴的創作者,其作品不論E-Hentai或ExHentai均無法瀏覽(例:Linda,ReiQ)
-E站也有非色情的內容,當中多為畫冊、工具書、遊戲攻略書,甚至連《點石齌畫報》這類古籍也有。
-而有關盜版的部分,目前在部分網站看到以下議論--
即便杜絕了盜版,其流量也不會回流到作者,部分原因如下:
+某些國家和地區沒有任何合法購買的渠道(包括但不限於實體本、禁止海外IP、禁止海外信用卡等因素)
+已經絕版
+部分用戶本身是有啥看啥,根本不打算消費
個人意見:
EX站的關閉和E站的即將關閉對各國用戶的影響可謂不少,
畢竟E站可說是少數規模龐大、方便使用而且安全無毒的本本網站,
當然盜版這問題是推不掉的,
但有不少在市面上不是稀有就是絕版的內容也因此失去了接觸的途徑,
鄙人自然會感到相當的綩惜。
-E-Hentai也有無法瀏覽的本/圖類型,必須訪問裡站的ExHentai才有
瀏覽的渠道(例:蘿莉、正太、近親交配),而ExHentai已於7/26關閉
-已向站方申訴的創作者,其作品不論E-Hentai或ExHentai均無法瀏覽(例:Linda,ReiQ)
-E站也有非色情的內容,當中多為畫冊、工具書、遊戲攻略書,甚至連《點石齌畫報》這類古籍也有。
-而有關盜版的部分,目前在部分網站看到以下議論--
即便杜絕了盜版,其流量也不會回流到作者,部分原因如下:
+某些國家和地區沒有任何合法購買的渠道(包括但不限於實體本、禁止海外IP、禁止海外信用卡等因素)
+已經絕版
+部分用戶本身是有啥看啥,根本不打算消費
個人意見:
EX站的關閉和E站的即將關閉對各國用戶的影響可謂不少,
畢竟E站可說是少數規模龐大、方便使用而且安全無毒的本本網站,
當然盜版這問題是推不掉的,
但有不少在市面上不是稀有就是絕版的內容也因此失去了接觸的途徑,
鄙人自然會感到相當的綩惜。
这好像只是现在管理员不想干了
公有领域#權利期間屆滿
E站,或者其他类似的网站,真正的价值不是托管非授权的数字形式的创作内容,而是使这些数字形式的创作内容在进入公有领域后可被获取。
我们今天仍然能够读到70年前的《人間失格》,然而70年后的人们是否还有机会看到我们这个年代的创作者的成果?
不。他们只会得出这样的一句结论:
21世纪的创作者,拿着作品去收钱,抱着作品进棺材,不留下一片云彩。
E站,或者其他类似的网站,真正的价值不是托管非授权的数字形式的创作内容,而是使这些数字形式的创作内容在进入公有领域后可被获取。
我们今天仍然能够读到70年前的《人間失格》,然而70年后的人们是否还有机会看到我们这个年代的创作者的成果?
不。他们只会得出这样的一句结论:
21世纪的创作者,拿着作品去收钱,抱着作品进棺材,不留下一片云彩。
