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回复 >>被投诉用户：guanyuhan426被投诉链接：投诉类型：评论投诉请求：取消折叠详情：恶意折叠
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>>就是因为它们自私且只活在自己大一统的世界下它们对反共阵营造成的不确定性要大于直接对抗让它们没机会在大...
Studebaker固然反大一统，但他喜欢通过妥协的艺术来解决问题——他通过冷战的博弈、俄国内战等模型来反思出这一点——他希望利用对人性的尊重找出不同派别的共同点，然后把敌人收买到我们这边来。不要被这位小少先队员的伪装迷惑，他是一只会咬的鳄鱼。
在我看来，反贼群体现在最大的问题是巧妇难为无米之炊，本身的稳定和扩增是最大的问题。那么具有普世价值和西方思维特征的那部分反贼应该抢在别人之前，在中国民众中传播思想和生活方式。如果不去做这一步，不仅是没有能力做下一步，而且就算共产党垮台了——光杀人是没用的，下一个也会是太平天国。
>>Studebaker固然反大一统，但他喜欢通过妥协的艺术来解决问题——他通过冷战的博弈、俄国内战等模...
问题是装睡的是醒不来的，就算你们费尽口舌用那套普世价值去跟它们谈而得到的也是那double A“你们不了解我们汉支”这种回复，老实说我刚开始来这里时也是个开明左派结果不到两个月就往图支法西斯靠拢了。。。为什么？因为这里的汉支非常不可理喻，听床师则跟虫子般的满地爬，根本无法沟通。反贼本身无法大量扩增本身不就是洼地没救了的象徵么？若反贼主体一直是靠海外与各地独立势力组成的话那去团结大一统支跟听床师不就是缘木求鱼吗？我能了解你们的苦楚但现实就是如此，为了去增加人数而放弃过去累积下来的基本盘才是亲痛仇快。
>>问题是装睡的是醒不来的，就算你们费尽口舌用那套普世价值去跟它们谈而得到的也是那double A“你们...
我的观点是这样的，如果你的评估是救不过来，那就安置自己的生活吧，自己的快乐此时最重要。所以对于一般的中国葱油，我总是劝他们润。
我对于这里用户群体是一个怎样的状况也是心里有数的，能帮到哪里就哪里吧。
>>Studebaker固然反大一统，但他喜欢通过妥协的艺术来解决问题——他通过冷战的博弈、俄国内战等模...
稳定和扩增, 还要做个人。
至于后来的事情，民族自决，自然而然。
有人性的共产党员，捷克和波兰在90年代的改革就是个很好的例子，
他们也自然而然的正常化了。
共产党垮台后搞成太平天国那简直就是灾难... （我觉得太平天国就是个水平过低，混乱不堪的义和团前奏。最讽刺的就是，太平天国还想着要保留一群太监，这简直是对上帝的亵渎。实际上呢？ 他们抓了一大群男孩，阉割后因为极端糟糕不堪的医疗水平，全死了 💀)
人性，人性，人性，要做个有人性的人，不然干什么都会崩溃的。
>>问题是装睡的是醒不来的，就算你们费尽口舌用那套普世价值去跟它们谈而得到的也是那double A“你们...
我碰到华统，大中华胶，
我不会在这方面交流太多。有的人，会在很少的交流后自然转变，但是如果这种事情不发生的话，更多的交流是没有用的。
我也是在想，沦陷区现在这副样子是有些没救....
但是又想想，以前乌克兰什么样？ 所以以后的事情也难讲。形势强于个人，所以需要做的就是观察形势，利用形势。
>>我的观点是这样的，如果你的评估是救不过来，那就安置自己的生活吧，自己的快乐此时最重要。所以对于一般的...
所以啊，有一种很狭窄类型的共产党员，赤色分子和我是合得来的（哪怕我的立场已经很清楚明显了）
那就是，伸个懒腰吃吃吃，睡睡睡，玩玩玩，自己开心如猫。虽然表面上是少先队员/共青团员/党员，但是实际上只是个挂牌，什么事情都刺激不到的那种（台湾管我啥事？厉害了我的国管我啥事？国家分裂管我啥事？我是来睡觉的）我也觉得这种人是很有意思的（就是无法赤化，太懒了）
表现在具体行为上，就是一起开心就好。这种人简直是猫变的
>>稳定和扩增, 还要做个人。至于后来的事情，民族自决，自然而然。有人性的共产党员，捷克和波兰在90年代...
就是这个意思，如果失去了人性，像中国现在这样，“人不屠支支自屠”不是开玩笑的。
虽然我平时对中国的评价是给面子的，但从务实的角度来说，中国人当前最重要的就是学着怎么做个人，而如果你当着他们的面提醒关于这个事实，他们会认为你看不起他们、想屠杀他们，这是我今天和一位典型代表对话总结的经验。
这话从我这里被说出来会很刺耳，只能让别人来说，还不能让中国人听见，否则他们会从一开始就敌对你。
>>就是这个意思，如果失去了人性，像中国现在这样，“人不屠支支自屠”不是开玩笑的。虽然我平时对中国的评价...
是这样的，人性第一。布尔什维克过于没有人性，自我灭亡，这是历史的公正（当然了，习近平反思了半天，反思出来了个不能有Gorbachev，这个水平太差了）
这个话啊，哎。文明差距过大的时候，连什么是人的定义都不一样了，真是糟糕，这都能有争议...
>>我碰到华统，大中华胶，我不会在这方面交流太多。有的人，会在很少的交流后自然转变，但是如果这种事情不发...
用以前的乌克兰如何来评论未来如何是种宿命论的想法。问题的癥结很简单——被害者武力不够强而大一统主义者没有把血流光人没死尽而已。西北欧会这么人性化除了文艺复兴外可是经历了从黑死病到三十年战争、玫瑰大战、宗教改革，百年战争、克伦威尔的英国内战、路易14的九年战争、西班牙继承战争，西里西亚战争、哈布斯堡战争、彼得一世的大北方战争、法国革命战争…….etc光是六百年内打了无数战争把好战者的血给流光了才有了今天的欧洲村。 换作是汉支大一统混蛋们绝对会说“战争那么多还是统一好”。
>>用以前的乌克兰如何来评论未来如何是种宿命论的想法。问题的癥结很简单——被害者武力不够强而大一统主义者...
我的意思是说，以前乌克兰的情况比现在中国沦陷区还要远远不如，
后来都民主化了，中国大陆民主化并不是那么的遥不可及。
但是屠光我觉得是不行的。古代战争伤亡死亡，是疾病饥饿还有战争，但是由于那是工业化之前，效率还是比较低的。
工业化后，死亡的规模才像工业产能一样有了本质的提高，以至于能够真正做到杀光，杀掉上百万等等，这在以前是做不到，或者需要许多许多年才能做到的事情（比如说打几十年才可以死一百万人。斯大林格勒，花了一年多死掉了一百多万），但是就算是都死了，那又能怎么样呢？
大一统主义的人，就算杀光了，政治制度，社会结构存在，这样的人依然会被培养出来。而如果制度结构改变了，这些人自然也会消失转变。（比如说苏联杀富农，资本家，外国势力，贵族，杀了一批一批又一批，终于杀得差不多了，但是过了十几年几十年又长出来了，总不能说是因为杀得不够狠，要继续屠吧？那这又一批出现的党内红色贵族，总不能再杀光吧，那不然共产党把党员全屠了么？所以需要另一个制度，结构，去改变未来）
>>问题是装睡的是醒不来的，就算你们费尽口舌用那套普世价值去跟它们谈而得到的也是那double A“你们...
This very person(doublea4548) is very unreliable, he highly tends to distrust and be hostile to people and lies a lot, thus can't be saved by effort of redeeming in conscience, according to my communication history with him.
I sent him a branch of olive, but he broke it into half and thought I was showing contempt to him. Such a poor soul, may God save him from mistakes and wrongs.
>>被投诉用户：矢作萌夏被投诉链接：投诉类型：问题投诉请求：转水投诉理由：站务：声望低于20的用户，发表...
应该是被下沉了，之前矫枉必须过正发过类似问题同样被下沉了。
https://pincong.rocks/question/67791
>>This very person(doublea4548) is very unreliable, ...
You’re not alone, I had the similar experiences with him as well, he had conducting misinformation and attempted to misleading folks and commentators with his Chinese unification propaganda in records. Thus he and grantyang had successfully misled some members in the forum and turning them into unification loyalists. They were eager to accomplished their goal by transforming the forum to their flavor and for their own vocals while suppressed other voices like CCP did and which is why I insisted that there orcs are beyond saving. Those were also pretended to be victims when the quests failed and even victimized themselves to caught more attentions when situation is detrimental.
Stadebaker had hinted me not to provoke these unifincationist in the other day because it will triggers unexpected outcomes and possibly ruining the anti- communist movement as they are currently need to strengthen more power for the forging period and engaging more enemies isn’t a wise idea. But I insisted that these folks will be keys to ruining your plan and even cause backfire within when CCP willing to offer the better bid to those unification loyalists the territorial prosperity and returning to han chinese origins. There is no way you’re saving them and turning them back, they are just as rogue as CCP and nonnegotiable with any given senses. Not to mention even if they are successfully overthrown the CCP they will become another nemesis to the entire Asia.
不好说，万一习近平突然中风死了，上台一个蒋经国开始搞民主制，那岂不是对我们的最佳剧本？
That was his replied, proven that if the deal is compromised they can go back and join the system to against you rebels for tearing their precious and rightful territory.
Which my stand is still there: separate from them in the future counter-communism movement or declare war on them with all costs while fighting CCP.
>>我的意思是说，以前乌克兰的情况比现在中国沦陷区还要远远不如，后来都民主化了，中国大陆民主化并不是那么...
乌克兰比较像港台虽然有大一统势力在但还是有救的，洼地基本上跟阿富汗一样都是对外来制序充满敌意且难以改造的。
别觉得老中温良，清末的时候，自杀式炸弹和刺杀一点都不少，现在有中共这种不惜工本投入维稳的极权的暴政下还有那么多献忠的，以后经济崩溃，支黑难道觉得自己会有中共那么多资源来投入维稳和镇压吗？
如果没有那么多资源，请问支黑怎么阻止想要大一统的中国人组织起来把支黑政权撕成碎片？
这是doublea4548回我的，看看阿富汗世俗政权的被毁灭下场再看看这群得了大一统癌与繁殖癌的汉支们，你认为汉支有救？再看看当下台港与少数民族与民主派的困境，没杀绝它们则它们还是会卷土重来的，只有灭绝才能解决问题。
还有你说现代科技与工业力能消灭人类那你也太看不起非欧美人类那可怕的生存力吧？
>>乌克兰比较像港台虽然有大一统势力在但还是有救的，洼地基本上跟阿富汗一样都是对外来制序充满敌意且难以改...
依我看，现在的中国，比情况最差的时候的乌克兰要好，
但是中国这么大，容易变回俄国这样。（这么说吧，90年代俄国和乌克兰相比，俄国是更民主的，更包容开放的，但是后来的事情也知道了）
如果说是要消灭汉支，但是这种人又有可怕的生存力，这不好办啊！
>>被投诉用户：新用户12555被投诉链接：投诉类型：评论投诉请求：折叠投诉理由：制造理解困难、或黑话较...
已折叠，顺便转告这位，以后不要在主区发这样的内容，这样触犯习惯法，到处重复同一观点没有深度讨论，有这方面问题到水区发。我不想做出特例破坏环境。
>>已折叠，顺便转告这位，以后不要在主区发这样的内容，这样触犯习惯法，到处重复同一观点没有深度讨论，有这...
麻烦下你转告吧，
那位.....
那位看到我那么骚，直接把我屏蔽了 （因为我的存在直接破坏了他的优生系统）
https://pincong.rocks/article/item_id-1247355
>>麻烦下你转告吧，那位..... 那位看到我那么骚，直接把我屏蔽了 （因为我的存在直接破坏了他的优生系...
新用户12555没有屏蔽你啊，
你们不是在我那边聊得很好吗？
还是你的链接贴错了，这是另一个人啊。
>>新用户12555没有屏蔽你啊，你们不是在我那边聊得很好吗？还是你的链接贴错了，这是另一个人啊。
哎呀，我记错了，
我记忆力是真的不行。
我找不着了，有另一个投诉，
https://pincong.rocks/user/admin_log/uid-119408
就是这位专门挖坟，都把5！！！年前的挖出来的，Nederland给了个灰名单，但是我早就被这位屏蔽了.....
我记岔了......
>>哎呀，我记错了，我记忆力是真的不行。我找不着了，有另一个投诉，https://pincong.roc...
OK，关于不要在主页无视主题发类似发言问题，希望他能注意，这是明显违反习惯法的行为，因为话题敏感我也是睁一只眼闭一只眼，但这种特例不好，主区是公共环境，需要照顾其他用户的感受，他的这个问题最好仅限于水区，不好意思麻烦你和他谈一谈这个事情。我怕我控制不好情绪会说一些比较严厉的话。
>>OK，关于不要在主页无视主题发类似发言问题，希望他能注意，这是明显违反习惯法的行为，因为话题敏感我也...
这个人就跟我在线呢，
我说了.....
他：为什么啊.......
哎.......
他，不好办啊......
（这位不听，如何不听的，你也是晓得的）
>>This very person(doublea4548) is very unreliable, ...
it is almost a waste of time coming to people like doublea4548...........
and there is barely any trace of wisdom.....
>>这个人就跟我在线呢，我说了..... 他：为什么啊.......哎.......他，不好办啊.......
即使被封吗？
我不想把话说的很直白，但他这样要么被封要么被黑名单，
我是不希望他这样才提醒他的，他这样去葱轮也行啊。
下次再受到这样类似的投诉，我看见估计直接给他永久黑单。
>>依我看，现在的中国，比情况最差的时候的乌克兰要好，但是中国这么大，容易变回俄国这样。（这么说吧，90...
好的地方仅限二线城市而已，一线都市跟农村的关系就像kabul沦陷前几个月的模样，有农逼献忠跟大一统汉支在洼地根本就不可能民主的。斯拉夫畜牲在90年代的乱象就跟mad max差不多基本上满地献忠你跟我讲比乌克兰好？
至于消灭汉支只是个目标而已，能杀尽量杀而杀不完就算了。
>>You’re not alone, I had the similar experiences wi...
they can't be easily salvaged. I don't expect that neither.
but it is the containment we need, not extermination. It is not the time yet.
also, those two persons surely won't change, given their track record. some others might be merely the followers, and when the tide changes, maybe they will change too. and if they change, it is all good. If they will not, deal with them later when the time comes.
And I am aware of who could be the backstabbers. Russian Civil War is an epic story made by backstabbers, in all directions. can't kill them all, gotta find a way to deal with them somehow, to live for another day.
>>即使被封吗？我不想把话说的很直白，但他这样要么被封要么被黑名单，我是不希望他这样才提醒他的，他这样去...
这就是我在两个月前提出的这个的原因，
对于本站低龄用户有没有什么适当的额外安全措施防止过度惩罚或者导致其他的过于严重的后果
按照这位的精神脆弱程度，被封后直接跳楼了，那我的良心承受不起（按照我的理解，这是完全可能的。尤其是考虑到以前新闻有什么微信被封跳楼的）。但是，但是这样也不好办啊。
所以说十几岁的难对付...... （所以我提到的，两个很亲密的男孩，吵了一架，打了一顿，回家上吊的那种）
>>这就是我在两个月前提出的这个的原因，按照这位的精神脆弱程度，被封后直接跳楼了，那我的良心承受不起（按...
我也是考虑这个原因所以一直没有什么行动，但允许特例是一件不好的事情，比如天下无贼，
所以我说要么他只在水区发这些敏感内容，要么去葱轮发，实在不行那就只能黑单【只能在水贴发言】
>>再看以后吧，如果再这样的话，你觉得你在那个贴里面提醒他如何？（我都怕.....）
我和你说了我说的话会很严厉的，你让我说我怕他会受不了。
【如果你不行的话可能只有Nederland可以了吧，
我对于他可以做到却不去做的行为很难用不严厉的口吻去开导，这可能是我的不足吧】
>>我和你说了我说的话会很严厉的，你让我说我怕他会受不了。【如果你不行的话可能只有Nederland可以...
我我我，我也很为难啊....
因为平常我一般是很温和的，但是在温和手段长期无效后，
直接变身Cheka几拳下去，都把工作的部门锤垮了（间接导致30多号人失业）.... 平衡不好把握啊。
那就先这样吧，如果再发生，就需要思考怎么办了。 （我的预感是，会的）
>>Nederland给他买过了，我之前和你提到过的。
都买过了啊.....
他今天才提到的....
而且他还说都要没脸见Nederland了..... 所以问我，但是，这种东西我连入口都摸不到（无淘宝，QQ因为发裸照才给实质上的永封，无支付宝）
难办啊。
>>...
alas....
I see.
I am afraid he needs a therapist than schooling first. But you know this is a luxury beyond his reach. He needs to build up the characters, approach of learning, more importantly the minimum viable psychological foundation to learn anything, than anything about textbooks.
and I guess we ran out of road for solutions then.
>>alas.... I see. I am afraid he needs a therapist t...
所以我在那时候说我没有办法了， Nederland都做到这种程度都无法让他振作起来，
那我做什么都是没用的。这超出了我的能力范畴。
>>所以我在那时候说我没有办法了， Nederland都做到这种程度都无法让他振作起来，那我做什么都是没...
I guess the constructive actions were in vain.
Time for damage control then. At least, not to contribute for any leaning towards suicide, that's all we can do.
>>被投诉用户：raydalio被投诉链接：投诉类型：评论投诉请求：取消折叠详情：说不过就折叠？精神胜利...
由於該討論串之中已有多起人身指涉發言，對摺疊並無異議
然應對等，故同樣對樓主採取折疊，並將其帖轉往爭議區
>>it is almost a waste of time coming to people like...
By the time I saw his dialog with okamiyu(https://pincong.rocks/question/item_id-729286), I instantly knew this guy ain't someone to mess with. You said just too frankly, but sort of accurate.....
>>By the time I saw his dialog with okamiyu(https://...
That's a big can of worms.....
You know I tend to be avoidant and forgetful, maybe they are fortunate traits coming to people and situation like that (◕ ɔ ◕✿)
>>They are not alone.
Usually I try not to trigger them, nor open the can of worms at this stage....
I don't think it is the time yet. Gotta stick together longer and see if the fight is for another time.
>>被投诉用户：sjjssjjsdiskks被投诉链接：投诉类型：评论投诉请求：封禁投诉理由：【理性发言...
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>>被投诉用户：小魔女被投诉链接：投诉类型：回答投诉请求：观察投诉理由：【理性发言规则】声望1以下的新注...
已折叠，如有再犯再观察。
>>By the time I saw his dialog with okamiyu(https://...
我知道ta是什么样的人所以我拉黑了ta，然后看到你和ta对线看到了过去的我。
ta就是诡辩，不是为了真相而只是为了赢，所以和ta的对话没有意义。
ta只是皇汉，所有的论点都是为了支持皇汉，从这点来说就是另外意义上的小粉红。
>>我知道ta是什么样的人所以我拉黑了ta，然后看到你和ta对线看到了过去的我。ta就是诡辩，不是为了真...That is a good call.
Little Pinkies are but a subset of Chinazis that are more subservient to the status quo and less resolute. They are the ones we can easily identify as CCP minions and/or Xi sycophants, and their accounts get busted on Pincong like flies.
There are two other subsets of Chinazis: Maoist Fundamentalists and Democratic Reformists. Despite their diametrical differences in ideology, both are more skillful at demagogy, dedicated to Chinese dominance, and relentless in justifying their ambition through political discourses.
Unfortunately, those two subsets are given a perfect platform to sharpen their skills and polish their speeches here at Pincong, intentionally or inadvertently, simply because they dissent from the CCP status quo and despise Little Pinkies.
Through all the valuable and in-depth discussions on Pincong since its beginning, we should have had an intellectual accord that the current CCP is but one of many products of Chinazi. Just because Maoists and Reformists within Chinazis are censored by the CCP, it does not mean that they should be given an equal platform where they can crowd out, demoralize, and play victim against those who are truly silenced, threatened, oppressed, marginalized, ousted, and suffocated by Chinazi's jingoism throughout their lives.
A forum like ours can get stumbled by ignorant catchphrases they use, such as "my freedom of expression on this forum." There is no such thing in any private enterprise. What Pincong should have and must preserve is its freedom of speech—an agenda and way of dialogue promoting liberty, reason, dignity, human rights, and happiness—not dominated or hijacked by the very group of thugs that swarm inside the GFW. Upholding the freedom of speech of Pincong as a private forum, as any remarkable private enterprise and social movement would do, is the key to preserving its voice, relevance, and value.
Thanks for your reading and consideration, @okamiyu , @Studebaker史刁碧嘉 , and @Nederland of the current discussion, and all the hardworking admins here.
>> That is a good call. Little Pinkies are but a sub...
Thank you for all this, that's really something and should be known by most of us on this forum. However, the effect of the tricks the Chinazis are playing is yet to be estimated, only when they cross the line, that is, their words do persuade a portion of folks within others more than their own share in the totality, is it the time for us to make a move on legislation agenda. Before figuring this out and considering a response for emergency, what we'd better do is to adjust our level of use of the given customary laws gradually, so whenever a bit more they rise, we strike, and this plan should be carried out carefully, since they can weaponize the concept of "freedom of expression" as you mentioned, which could cause really bad hurt to Pincong's reputation. What do you think?
>>they can't be easily salvaged. I don't expect that...
I never expecting it to be easy, it is just an ideal solution to keep them at the bay and prevent them to do more harm to your plan as CCP knew well by exploited the major weakness of those unification loyalist and how easily they can be manipulated with feeding them glorified history entities, value of blood line and territorial prosperity during the conflict.
Like I stated it before, their opposition on CCP is for their own gain and not for the majority of goods or justices, they are blinded by the glorious past(bind by those history that they believed) and ignored the reality. If you think a containment with them in your counter-communist movement is required and one day you’ll regretting you’ve done day. It is not just a distress signal or caution but it is definitely a destined certainty in the future. I may not think of extermination ( or genocide) is necessary to handle them yet but it is still a tactical solution in a upcoming full fledge civil war when things are out of control and future resistance is at the risk of stumbling from inside.
For those two, my opinion might not matter but I am still giving the suggestion by keeping eye on these two while the forum should starting drawing the line and separating the forum from these unification loyalists. Beside of that I am totally agree you about persecuting them later when things is settled. However, during the forging period against CCP you folks should keep eye on these unification loyalist as well, it wouldn’t hurt by being more cautious.
Since you acknowledged well with the history of Russian civil war and you must learnt a lot from these slavic orcs and which you should know well what to do to next and cautiously execute the plan without repeating the history itself.
>>Thank you for all this, that's really something an...
Thank you for the kind, prompt response. You have underlined two insightful and pragmatic considerations that I support wholeheartedly:
First, our response needs to be prudent. Episodic emergency responses can cause disputes that jeopardize Pincong's reputation and undermine the consistency of precedents, which will cause more confusion and trouble for future admins.
Second, the efficacy of Pincong's customary laws depends on the admins' availability, comprehensive skills, integrity, and resolve. Though we do not always have enough hands on deck, we cannot risk expanding the admin team without ensuring our judiciary is in good hands.
As you may have noticed, I always hesitate to support new legislative moves. The above practical concerns are my reasons exactly. It has been a while since I last saw an RFC discussion that met the quorum, stayed on topic, and remained collegial among users with qualified Reputation Scores (RS). Fortunately, our customary laws are adequate—as long as we carry them out dutifully and in good faith—at least for now.
Please allow me to highlight a presumption from your response that I'd like to discuss further. When you draw the line that Chinazis should not cross by saying that "their words do persuade a portion of folks . . . ," I'm concerned because using the forum to persuade is not always their plan.
Chinazis obey identity, emotion, zeal, and blind faith, not reason. Persuasion is an intellectual activity where they most likely fall short. Hence, Maoists tend to crowd out and disrupt; pretentious Reformists tend to deconstruct the law in bad faith and reshape it in their favor. They can do so without using any explicit and punishable insults.
Fortunately, their forum behavior can uncover the intention beneath the facade of their text. When they get called out, they likely use their content—by the Likes they got or the righteousness of their main idea—to justify their disruptive behavior, such as repetitiveness, disinformation, farming for Likes (and RS), and plagiarism. The suggestion of removing a clause from the customary law is a fine example. The latest case of flooding a topic tag may also be a suspect. Those are deeds beyond persuasion or using the forum for idea sharing; they are manipulative workarounds.
Generally, a sincere forum user cares more about the content, community, and dialogue. A forum disrupter with malicious intent would care more about their visibility (such as manual pinning through endless dispute and dishonest tagging), RS, and topical dominance beyond content quality. When the disruption happens long and frequent enough, it becomes the norm. The noticeable portion of the forum will then conform to a new agenda and quality standard, voila, the de facto overtaking.
Once again, I appreciate your time and consideration.
>>被投诉用户：fOIAWNOo被投诉链接：投诉类型：评论投诉请求：封禁投诉理由：【禁碰瓷规则】通过造谣...
存在争议，且该用户为新注册用户无法观察，不同意其看法点踩即可。
>>存在争议，且该用户为新注册用户无法观察，不同意其看法点踩即可。
不存在争议，就是乱码五毛系列，你看他连续注册好几个，语气用词都是一样的，我全封了@takesipon
fEc3yYYQ UID : 130577
fOIAWNOo UID : 130576
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JIf9YcRg UID : 130573
非常明显的五毛连续注册，还有这个@香港臨時政府 UID : 130579 ，这群五毛偶尔复制点中文词当ID，但大部分都是连续注册的
>>I never expecting it to be easy, it is just an ide...
Surely I'm aware of the danger. It is not the time to open fire at them, letting them side with CCP for now. At least they need to be neutralized, instead of helping CCP at the moment.
Yet, the room for compromise might be growing thinner day by day. I am largely forgettable myself so I won't remember them two very soon. I recognize the pattern, however.
>>Surely I'm aware of the danger. It is not the time...
I’m also hoping them staying neutral as well, but their nature tells me that they would definitely joint force with CCP once their glorify territorial prosperity is at danger of separating apart. So best way to do is hoping CCP strikes on them and the completely breakdown between them to the point of no way of turning back, once the war between them started all we need is to isolated them until they reach the blink of annihilation by CCP. Then you folks raise the resistance all over the place in China and declare independence in every region while they are busy killing each others. That way we can finally end the loop of the madness that had last for centuries.
>>Surely I'm aware of the danger. It is not the time...
And yeah, compromise can not last if the ideals are so far apart, we can ignore these two and move forward, which it is currently the best way to the forum management.
>>I’m also hoping them staying neutral as well, but ...
It is dancing on razor's edge, you know this...
people have failed on this. let's see what happens this time.
>>It is dancing on razor's edge, you know this... pe...
It is a ceremony of sacrifice when the moment comes, even when they knew they are trading with the devils.
>>被投诉用户：余日被投诉链接：投诉类型：用户投诉请求：封禁投诉理由：【禁蓄意虚构新闻】有证据或者自己承...
Please show me the link of his misinformation
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>> That is a good call. Little Pinkies are but a sub...
you know we are dancing on the razor's edge.
the room of compromise is utterly small and narrow
